Huh? Now don't get me wrong or anything but if its BASIC then you could just use VTI or the calc itself. But I think it is a very good idea, if the size is not to big.

Oh yeah First Comment!
:P

It's almost like Shermco Studio downloadable from Ticalc & Cahal Tech. Very nice program coming!

http://www.cahaltech.com

good idea, ugly as crap GUI

good idea, ugly as crap GUI
oh yeah, no MAC program, what the hell is wrong with you people, MAC's rule!

...me thinks i sees a new survey coming up...

My only Mac is an ancient one, and I never got very good at programming it. I'll do one for Mac - but only if U don't mind it being a monochrome Hypercard stack :)

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Rob

Hey, don't dis them entirely :) I first leared Pascal, my initial stint at programming on a lovely Apple IIc....the suckers were funny. Bang em once to turn off the noise....bang em again, and you lose network connnections!

Have to fix both the network connection and printer jam everyday to print my code....haha.

-Corey

Hey, I'm not dissing Macs. I like macs a lot! I'm just not very good at programming them. I too learnt Pascal on my Mac SE/30. :)

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Rob

The top-of-the line Mac, the G4 SMP, was blown away by a stripped-down version of the Dream Machine 2K (One PIII was taken out, the other was was downclocked by half, and a lot of memory was removed) I think I'll stick with my PC.

Damn straight! You'd have to PAY me to get me to start using my Mac SE again. (You'd have to fix it too :). Besides, the Mac GraphLinks are next to impossible to find unless you order them straight from TI.

I believe that the only way this program would actually be usefull is if you could program basic programs QUICKLY- like have super-duper fast hot-keys to all the commands, so with a little practice, you could make programs with a lot less pain-in-the-ass on-calc programmin (even though with practice you can get pretty quick at that...)

joel_nye@mailcity.com

Yeah, I know, it would be nice if you could set certain programming strings as hotkeys or menu commands. It's pretty annoying when you have to go back cut and paste over and over again for some repetitive commands that can't be subroutiened.

Will this cool software support HACKED TI-BASIC commands? If so, that would be really cool! I wouldn't have to send people doing the hacking on their own. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, hacking allows for 255 pics, matrices, strings, etc., in TI-BASIC.

Bob Maresh

Good luck storing 255 pics :)

If someone will give me syntax details and so forth I can add the extra commands to the list.

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Thanks,
Rob

Just look at the source code to prgmCRASH. (TI82) The earliest parts are written in TI-BASIC, and it does operations with matrices named 'a' and 'b'. (lowercase letters)

A variable can have any name after hacking, you could name a picture [A] or even Str1... (You can't type these hacked names on the TIOS, but they work fine)

255 pics would require 190 KiB. That exceeds the memory of the standard 83+, but could fit within the silver edition's archive.

255? why do i always see that number? why not 256?

cause your gay

255=$ff=%11111111 or one byte of all ones. This is the maximum number a byte can be.

But he makes an intersesting point. If there is a Pic0, which there is, then shouldn't it be possible to get 256 pics?

83's could never hold 255, not even a 83+ can, just go ahead and buy a 89/92+
Cough, cough,
under breath,
92+
Cough, cough,
under breath
Make a mac version

ok...
When I saw your first Mac comment above, I was perturbed but willing to overlook it in favor of moving on to more interesting posts. However, with this added desecration of good taste, I feel a need to interfere.
First of all: Apple is gay. I am a computer company. I make computers that all run on the same OS. I have most of the market for a long time (80's). This means that when computers without my OS and hardward configuration patterns start gaining a majority, I'm unwilling to adapt and make my machines and all the software that I make compatible with the new computers and the software made for them. Some people, however, still manage to deceive themselves into thinking that my company is better than the competition because my computers are made with "artistic intent"; i.e., they have 20 different colors which act to befuddle consumers into thinking that they bought a competent computer.
Second: Why would anyone pay fifty something dollars more for a TI-92 when it is no improvement whatsoever over an 89 (except for the screen size)? Many standardized tests that allow use of 89s won't accept 92s because of the qwerty keyboard layout. Also, a 92 weighs like a pound more and is therefore harder to go backpacking with.

no offence, but anyone who goes backpacking with their calculator SERIOUSLY needs a life..
Im gonna be a little hypocritical here because i am a programmer, and i do program calculators, but DUDE! why dont all you freaks go and get sub-laptops with 20gig harddrives and linux, and ditch these stupid z80 5mhz systems worth about $2.50 that TI charges like 100 buks for (for a ti-83plus at least)?!? Some of you people are genius programmers, and could be out there actually making some MONEY with some big software company, instead of spending hours programming a little pissy calculator in assembler?
lol im extremely hypocritical- ive made games too, but the only reason is because it is fun to show my friends at school what i can do- but really, some of you people get way into all this stuff... just go do something useful!

joel_nye@mailcity.com

For one thing, a lot of the programmers here, (I think), are somewhat young to be making loads of money writing programs. I am mildly good at C but am only 13! I don't think what your saying is suitable to ALL of the Genius programmers.

I know some one who is 16 and getting $25 dollars an hour at some animation firm in canada. So, you're never too young to start getting money, considering you know what you're talking about.

i used to know someone like that during my sophomore year of highschool(im a junior, EVILDEAD89 Rules!!!), who everyone in Graphic Arts called scquirel, dont ask me why, who could program in unix, VB, C++, C, and best in Java. the company he was working for, some semiconductor company, thought he was so good that they took him out of high and right into college under full scholarship and then to work full time for them.

I can top that: I make $30 an hour doing computer programming at 17 working part-time at a small software company (And for them, I'm a bargain, as I get absolutely zero benefits, and program in the less-then-common language Delphi, which in my opinion is the best language on the planet). I can make $25 doing contract work for various customers of my little company (1 person, me, registed as a ltd.)

First off: Seeing your comment makes me ashamed to be a Mac user, as it's a disgrace to the modern Mac community. Real Mac users don't go around spamming message boards with demands for Mac versions. If it's meant to happen, it will. Posting "make a mac version" left and right will make a Mac port about as likely as an Evil Dead game for the 89 (what the heck is that, anyway?)
Secondly: Give the guy credit for what he's already accomplished. This program isn't even released yet, but the screenshots and the overall interface (please refrain from your evangelistic comments) is really impressive. If you want a program like this to be on the Mac and have 92+ BASIC support, well darn it, learn freaking C and get going! Programming a Mac is not the hardest thing in the world. I suggest picking up a copy of "Mac Programming for Dummies" as that really helped me out. Going this route is a lot more productive than whining about it.

My 2% of $1

Of course, if you're willing to spend just a few bucks more, you can buy an 86 and have access to trillions of variable names.

or u can upgrade and not be a cheap bastard and buy a Ti-92+, or better yet, a Handspring Visor or some sort of Palm OS device. Ever since I got my Visor I have not used my 92+ or 83+ much.

Hey, not everyone here's of the nerd-with-disposable-income set. One gets what one affords.

Yep, until I finally got my 89, I used various 83+ I borrowed from my High School (advanced math classes are great). Anyway, I plan on keeping the one I have now until the end of this semester when I graduate.

Y'know, it's weird. Ever since I bought my Visor, my batteries in my 83+ seem to last 20 times longer! (I go through a set of alkalines in my handheld in a week, though :)

A GraphLink program for a PalmOS device would be handy.... anyone up for a challenge?