FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
only problem is, i've been messing around with ams2.01 for a long time, and this is nothing new. not only that, asm still doesn't work.

well, at least, since this is an official release and not a leaked beta, programmers should be updating their asm programs soon to work with it

i don't know how long i can survive without games...

"Update" their programs? Kinda hard, my friend recently programmed a 2d Duke-Nukem like game for the TI-89 (grayscale and all) but it's 37k, and worthless with the new 89's coming out.

"Updating" a program to ams v2.03 is harder than thought since the whole darn thing was practically rewritten. Yet another issue my friend is yet to solve is the stupid 8k limit. He was already getting tired of programming the same game for a year without that limit, but doing it again to break it up into separate files will be annoying. He says there should be a way to get around that barrier, but all he can think of is splitting up the files.

As for the games, hopefully you're happy with tetris and phoenix (working with that new 2.0x kernel) because that's about all we have for the time being.

Anybody have some info on that new kernel working with v2.03?

-Trailblazer

So let me get this straight, not only was the new hardware incompatible with greyscale, but now the new AMS version is incompatible with ASM programs all together?? How long will it take for this to be fixed??
Is it possible to downgrade back to 2.01? Will the ti-89 problems never end??????????????

doesn't this problem affect all 68k calcs? most people seem to exclude that calculator (computer?) known as the 92/92+

Yes, the same thing is true for the TI-92 Plus. ticalc.org, and most other people, seem to ignore the TI-92 Plus since its huge, expensive, and most people don't own them. This does not affect the TI-92 since it does not have Flash ROM.

Doesn't 92+ have flash ROM?

Yes it does, and the TI-92 does not. The TI-89 and TI-92 Plus are virtually identical.

Sorry, I didn't read your comment right.

<SARCASM>Isn't it comforting to know that TI is blatantly trying to sabotage our programming efforts? It's wonderful to see them destroy grayscale (although that "might" have been just an accident) in HW v2.00 although the complete incompatibility with asm games is an obvious action that they could have easily fixed</SARCASM>

-Trailblazer

You can downgrade a HW1 calculator to 1.00 and a HW2 calculator to 1.05. I don't know why you would want to go back to 2.01 from 2.03, they are both incompatible with most, if not all, current assembly programs.

<Sarcasm>
BASIC Games still work
</Sarcasm>

I e-mailed ti and was told that the sdk will be available the first quarter of the year 2000.
Until then it looks like we will have to settle for what we have.

Well, it seems like us ASM programmers have just been suckling at TI's teeth for a long time. We found loopholes to make our programs work such as kernels, shells, etc.. But the final truth is, TI IS in command here, and their new assult aginst ASM is merciless...

wow, ticalc.org actually mentioned the unofficial ams2.01 on the front page- for a while now it seemed they were avoiding the topic. messages about it were deleted, and it wasn't mentioned as a news topic (like dim ti)

Technically, they did _not_ mention AMS 2.01 on the front page. Notice Nick's huge paragraph is only shown on this page, not the front page.

Uh, yes we did mention it on the front page - note the second update. And you posted that comment well after I updated the news item, so you should have seen that.

--BlueCalx

Sorry, you assume I reload the front page every 5 minutes, which I don't. That would be a stupid thing to do.

Next time, before you attack ticalc for not putting something on the front page, LOAD THE FREAKIN' FRONT PAGE. It's not their fault that you have an ancient copy of the index in chache.

Note that Nick did not put the time that he posted those "updates". And I did not attack ticalc.org.

Hehehe, I like how bryan here is very negative to everyone. Bryan, I still think you should be on ticalc.org. Anyway, onto the subject, I don't think TI is trying to sabotage programming. It doesn't make sense. The best people to make their flash updates would be those who understand it. Kirk Meyer understands the TI-86 quite well and could probably help TI in some way with another calculator. I think that this is all just an overlooked mistake. If they were trying to sabotage the TI programming, they would have done it long ago; they wouldn't actually have programs on their web site.

Dan

I must disagree, I don't think my comment was that negative.

TI isn't trying to sabotage calculator programming, they just want to get a piece of the action. They don't like it that every calculator they make, we turn around and "crack" it. They also want to make some money off these well-made programs. They probably think they can sell some of this stuff.

does anyone beside me think selling ASM games would kill the <PUN>industry</PUN>.
I know I wouldn't pay more than a cent online for a game, yes they are good (some bery good), but unless I could pay the programmer in person (which is next to impossible), I wouldn't... No one has seemed to mind making games for us for free, in thier "spare" time, in the past. I would, but I seem to be having trouble finding the "spare" time to learn 68k. Go figure!

i meant that little blurb that nick just added- the one about the unofficial 2.01 and ti-fr's kernel. it seemed to me that before they were trying to avoid that topic because people complained it was an illegal release.

Not that it was illegal (it probably was) - I didn't want it mentioned because it wasn't an official release by TI. You didn't know what they were going to finally release to the public.
Now we do. :)

--BlueCalx

Or maybe because TI complained.. :)

Anyway, I didn't see that little blurb Nick added because I don't reload the front page every 5 minutes.