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CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Posted by Nick on 7 November 1999, 19:24 GMT

CalcPilot Thumbnail - Click to enlargeTyrel Haveman of Haveman Computer & Internet approached my e-mail box with a wonderful screenshot of a program that will interface with a TI to give it access to the internet. It looks like it's approaching completion, so that's quite encouraging. The program's name will be called CalcPilot. According to the author, "My company has released the first screenshots of my Windows application that will give TI-89's access to the Internet (someone can write something like Windows Sockets library for TI that will work with the application, then others can make browsers etc for TI) and does file management thru the computer, etc." This seems like something that would be pretty neat to attempt. Click on the rather sketchy thumbnail to the right to see the full screenshot. :)

 


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Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Matt Peresie  Account Info
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Are there betas of this program or is this still under development?

     7 November 1999, 19:26 GMT


Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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Still under development.

--BlueCalx

     7 November 1999, 19:41 GMT

Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
PolarSmurf Account Info
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wow first commment..just had too


this kicks ass
i cant wait to browse the net via my calculator

     7 November 1999, 19:30 GMT


Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
givethe86achance  Account Info

ya its grarate but the pages cant have java or .pic .midi .exe or shortcuts.
still think its grate.
If i'm not right please corect me.

ps it hast to be a unix basted server and an external modem NOT A PCISA CREDIT CARD MODEM

Sorry to berst your bubble

     16 November 1999, 04:23 GMT

Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
deuist Account Info

As slow as the calc port is, I don't think trying to surf the internet will be of much use.

     7 November 1999, 19:50 GMT

Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
XenoMorph
(Web Page)

Why would you want to surf the internet with you calculator? And if this is a windows program, doesn't this mean that you have to be at your computer and online to surf. If so, why don't you use your computer to surf.

     7 November 1999, 20:03 GMT


Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
SuperCheeseMan Account Info

Haha! That's the exact same thing I thought when I first saw this! But I guess it might be a tiny bit useful if you could download stuff straight to your TI, 'cause then you wouldn't have to transfer it through another program.
Other than that, it seems kinda pointless to sit there with a tiny calculator screen trying to look at a web page when you could just tilt your head up 30 degrees and see it on a regular monitor!

     7 November 1999, 20:43 GMT


Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
AuroraBoriales  Account Info

Well, the calc's port isn't really that slow. It's usually at 9600bps to 14000bps. But since it is TTL, it is verstile and very adaptable. It CAN(but only few people have tried) go as fast as 56K(The 56k link, not very common because it is unstable). Plus, TTL is similar to the interface that a phone line uses.

     7 November 1999, 21:12 GMT

Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Tyrel Haveman  Account Info
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You're right... the COM port on the computer itself is capable of 115200 bits per second, which is the speed of a dual-channel ISDN Internet connection. I'm not sure if the calculator itself and the link cord are capable of the such speeds, however.

     7 November 1999, 22:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
deuist Account Info

I remember seeing pictures of a TI modem a few months ago. Is that project dead?

     7 November 1999, 23:09 GMT

Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Jay Maus  Account Info
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Looks incredibly cool... I have heard of some sort of hack-type software that connected an 83 to Telnet, but actual commercial software is very cool. mIRC and MU*ing has potential on an 89... and perhaps WWW surfing... at least in my humble opinion. ^^

     7 November 1999, 20:04 GMT


Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Josh Storz  Account Info
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i hooked up my 83 to a modem by using several gender
changers, a null modem cable, and a graphlink. i had
to hotwire some stuff to get the modem to think it was
connected to a computer (DTR), but it works great.
if only someone could create a keyboard... i also
have an idea to make a kindof link os for maybe the 92;
it could do basic multitasking so that there could be
one tcp/ip like prog that would leak data to other progs
like telnet... oh well, when I have time, or if someone
want's to drop me an email i'll give them more specs.

     9 November 1999, 01:33 GMT

Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Reno  Account Info

it does sound cool, but www'ing on a calc isn't really too necessary. the most effective way a ti could be used on the internet is to mainly check email, irc, and maybe even go tiny MUD's :P if this were portable (not portable like that crazy idea of taking your laptop to school and wire yourself crazy, but portable like a cell phone) then it'd be a lot more useful

     7 November 1999, 20:21 GMT


Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Samir Ribic  Account Info
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Paton produced very neat small modems, like matchbox. I belive they will be very useful for TI89.

     8 November 1999, 00:08 GMT

Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Tyrel Haveman  Account Info
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Just some additions here... we plan to release a beta version maybe next week, and it should be completed within a month. I understand all of your "what's the point?"'s, so I have a point. This was already mentioned by one person, that you can download programs from the Internet direct from your calculator. I was also thinking that some day there will be radio transmitter GRAPH LINKs, so if go to school close to home, you can leave your computer on and surf the net via radio waves through your TI to give you something to do in US History class.
Surfing the Internet etc wasn't going to be the main feature of the application, either. It's going to be more for file management, and for sending files from one TI to another TI over the Internet (so you don't have to mess with saving to hard drive, etc). I'm hoping to impliment remote TI screen sharing, too... so someone from ticalc.org who is good at troubleshooting calcs can work on fixing somebody's calculator without actually downloading all the files and everything.
Tyrel Haveman,
President
Haveman Computer & Internet

     7 November 1999, 20:58 GMT

Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
AuroraBoriales  Account Info

As weird as it is, there ARE "Radio Links" that can link from calc-calc within a 100 yard range. I forgot the web site, but it is under devolopment by "Fusion 2 labs" It looks cool. It'll sure give an advantage to tests, etc..

     7 November 1999, 21:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Tyrel Haveman  Account Info
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Yes I was hoping there was or would be soon :) However I do not mean for this program to help people out on their tests and cheat, etc.. I think that that link thing you mentioned probably would work to link to the computer if you used the black link cable -- since it has a plug in the end just like a TI would. I have a friend who is working on building a TI link hub, so that you can have several TI's connected at the same time. This would be good for schools, maybe, that don't have enough money to buy computers for students to use the Internet, but can afford TI-89's :)

     7 November 1999, 21:26 GMT

Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Reno  Account Info

could there be the possibility of playing, say, tetris89 in 2 player mode over the net? :P

     7 November 1999, 23:18 GMT

Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Tyrel Haveman  Account Info
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Yes, of course! As long as both calculators have it, and both computers that the calcs are hooked to have this application, you would just set the application to route any links to the IP address of the computer that has the other calc...

     8 November 1999, 00:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Reno  Account Info

so if this is true, could there be such things like 4 player games?

     8 November 1999, 01:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Matt Peresie  Account Info
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This is rahter pointless. Why would you waste time sitting on the internet with your computer right in front of you. From what I read it seems like you need to interface your calculator to your computer and then to the internet. This seems rather stupid and pointless. Why not just use your computer to use the internet.

Also if the TI-89 ever does have a web browser it will make Lynx look good.

If you don't know what Lynx is well you must be a llama.

     8 November 1999, 01:51 GMT


Don't diss da Lynx.
Nikku-kun Account Info

Has Lynx ever looked bad? It's a perfectly fine browser.

     8 November 1999, 23:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Jean Vásquez  Account Info
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Why play Tetris 89 from a calc connected to a computer hooked up to the internet, when you can play Tetrinet over the computer hoooked up to the internet, thereby skipping the calculator itself, and being able to play the same game, with much more entretaining elements in it, and being able to play it in colour. Not to mention Tetris89 would not be able to take into account your ping time and lag, and the fact that there could be some packet loss over the internet. So let me reiterate myself, play Tetris 89 with another person only if you have the other person very close to you (physically), and play Tetrinet on your computer with people that are not near you holding a calculator hooked up to your calculator with a calc-to-calc link cable. Just a reasonable though.....

     8 November 1999, 22:09 GMT


Re: Re: CalcPilot Announced by Tyrel Haveman
Thifeshe  Account Info
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I have noticed the number of comments about TI modems and such, and I would like to point out that Fission2 Labs is working on many of the ideas already mentioned. If you would like to see what we are working on, head on over to http://www.fission2.com/ or you can email me, since I am a staff member. I am sure other people are working on similar projects, I just wanted let people know that someone is working on them.
This looks like a fantastic product, I am excited for the release.
Now for something completly different: on an unrelated topic, I have created a archive of a collection of games for the TI-89 ROM version 1.05. It has just about every game, so for those of you who do not have the time to test every game on your calculator, just email me and I will be happy to send it to you.

     8 November 1999, 00:37 GMT

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