Basic now has input commands. Neat. But it only allows one input at a time, which is not quite as good as what a lot of us are used to with the ti89s dialog box capabilities.

Nice

Keep in mind that Ndless 1.0 doesn't work with TI Computer Link Software v1.4, though.

Ndless on 2.0, thats the next step.

Its important to note that when it is said that "ti is selling a new revision of the calculator", they really are just selling the same thing with different colors (which are obviously better but unimportant), and a new keypad, which, to me, could make using the calculator slower when dealing with calculations other than the basic 4 functions.

I especially didn't like the fact that they removed the trig keys, which have been stationary keys for all time.

The new keypad can be inserted into a old calculator and vice versa, so {i conclude that) there isnt much of a difference.

Actually, the new hardware has a removable top panel for the new TI-nspire rechargeable battery. This battery is only supported by the new models with the panel and charging connections through the mini USB port.

I would personally find this useful since the TI-nspire sucks batteries dry.

HUh??? You mean you can not plug the thing into the wall to charge the battery like you can with a cell phone??? Who the heck is going to carry around a computer so that you can charge a calculator battery thru the usb port? That is rediculous. Can you just connect a mini usb connector to an old TV power cord and plug it into the wall to charge the battery?

Also, the home page for this thread says "as well as some new math functions." Could someone list what functions would that be? I'm hoping it is something significant like Laplace transforms? Thanks.

USB is a standard form factor (ok, you have micro vs mini vs full sized plugs) at a standard voltage. I make it a point to only buy electronics that charge via USB. That way I only have to carry one A/C to USB charger (and two cables) and that lets me charge my cell phone, an Ipod, a Garmin GPS, and my camera.

If TI hadn't used the USB standard I would have been annoyed. Its another charger to lug around.

**NEW HARDWARE NSPIRE**
You can plug it into a wall (Use a USB wall charger and a USB Type A to C conversion cable) It's just like a phone.

**ANY NSPIRE with 2.0**
The New Math is polynomial root functions that can solve complex roots as well as rational/irrational for any degree and there are some templates that changed from text to math like the derivative one. There is also a new Home screen with Scratchpad (Faster Math and Graph without program capability or saving to documents)

PS-The polynomial root functions require that you completely expand the polynomial. Ex. NO: (x+1)^2 YES: x^2+2*x+1

the new functions include a polynomial root solver and a simultaneous equation solver

Disappointed. I already have that capability on my voyage 200 and have had it for years, so I guess it's not so new. When is TI going to get off their az and do something important? Do't they have the programing talent to do 3d graphing and slope fields for instance? This crab of coming out with a new OS that doesn't offer anything significant is really getting old!!!

yes, i did notice that, but i question why someone would want to buy a nspire-only rechargeable battery when they can have any-device rechargeable AAA batteries

i see the potential for the battery to lose charge and eventually lose the ability to hold charge after long periods of non-use/charge

I've followed nspire from the beginning, and to me it is clear that TI has had plenty of time to upgrade that design to at least the ti-89 and Voyage math capability but they don't and after all this time it is clear that they are not going to. As a substitute they come out with gimmics like a chargable battery THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR! What a bunch of B.S. They must stay awake all night thinking up these schemes! I didn't have to pay extra for the rechargable battery in my electric tooth brush and I am not going to buy a calculator that I have to pay extra for the rechargable battery! Instead of coming up with ways to screw the customer they should work on producing a good product! I'm so disgusted with TI!

Well, they broke 1.1 support too in new CAS, even if you delete the Operating system.

Just get Duracell batteries those last like 4 months at least.

HOLY CRAP!
A TOUCH PAD!?

IMAGINE WHAT THOSE CRAZY PROGRAMMERS ARE GOING TO DO WITH THAT!!!

oh man... i see it now lol...

The current version of ndless only works on OS 1.1 and the touchpad requires OS 2.0 an the new link software which also doesn't work with ndless.

(I wonder if TI has blocked downgrading on the new device or OS)

Continued...

That means that the only programming it can do is basic.

what the!?
that sucks then!

oh well... but i bet its just a mater of time before someone cracks it again lol :P

that sucks then? You bet it does and it will be a long long time before I buy another TI product. It's time for a boycott. They certainly don't try to get our business so why buy their products.

its already hacked

only a matter of time before the new Ndless is released

see url (http://bit.ly/cLJH8N)

According to the authors, you still need OS 1.1 to initially install the jailbreak files, so you can't use that method to jailbreak the new hardware which doesn't accept any OS 1.x.

I just got one of the old clickpad (not trackpad) Nspire CAS units and would love to be pointed to references and sources that would help me learn the differences between programming on the 84 (which I had access to a few years ago) and this clickpad unit.

I did find a Teacher Software Guidebook that has some useful information on wikispaces (see link)

But I'd love to see a language reference, etc. I am an old-style dos-based basic programmer, such as with QBX 7.2 (Quick Basic Extended Professional Edition) which, dag nab it, doesn't work under Windows 7 and up.

Thanks for any advice you can offer. My hobbies now include programming on old calculators and eventually, some new ones, too.

Any advice would be helpful.

the new keypad certainly looks cooler, but i think it would be inconvenient to use because many keys (including trig) that were keys on the clickpad are now changed to one key, which brings up a popup menu which you have to scroll through