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TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Posted by Michael on 12 April 2006, 15:03 GMT

[TI-Nspire CAS]It appears that TI has a new calculator under development, however it only appears on the German version of TI's website. The TI-Nspire CAS (translation) is seemingly in a pre-release phase.

TI has a flash demo posted which shows some information about the calculator. It is a departure from all previous models, with a new GUI and what looks like a grayscale screen. There is no information yet on the hardware specifications, other than it has a USB port and two USB ports on a cradle (if I am translating German correctly). In any case, this new upcoming calculator is more exciting than watching Joey Gannon dancing in lederhosen.

Please keep in mind that the image to the right is one of TI's mockups which is drawn in Photoshop (or photo editor of their choice). It is not an actual image.

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Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Alex M  Account Info
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This one looks intimidating. It seems to be an over-bloated scientific army knife. This can lead to the following conclusions:

1. It will be pricey. I expect it to cost over $350.

2. Due to its high price, it will not enjoy much community support, resulting in scarce homebrew software (no games and *very few* quadratic solvers)

3. It will be a mini-powerhouse compared to TI's other calculators. I expect a 30Mhz+ processor, perhaps external storage media such as SD or CF, OS Grayscale support, a more powerful and more capable incarnation of TI-Basic, an upgrade if you will to 68k Basic.

4. It will probably not be compatible with the TI-keyboard, TI seems to move away from Link ports to mini-USB. Maybe they'll make an adapter for it, that seems likely keeping in mind they also make face-plate stickers.

As a comment on the screenshot interface, it looks cluttered, but then again so does Windows and most of us use it regardless. The 68k OS looks ages ahead of this one in terms of aesthetics.

The case design is downright horrible, it looks like a bank card scanner or a price gun. TI moved in the right direction design-wise with the V200, 84, and 89T, and it would be a shame for them to go back in time, especially for what it looks to be their highest-end calculator product.

I wonder if this will run on regular AA(A)'s or on built-in Lithium rechargeables.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 16:23 GMT

Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Scooblescott  Account Info

maybe it is compatible with 89/82/v200 programs, so it could have games, quadratic solvers, etc.

Im just assuming here, though, since all of the posts are just assumptions and wants of the new calculator.

For all anybody knows, they may release it in the U.S. months or even years after they release it in germany.

As for my hopes for the new calculator:
1. New programming language. no more "Due to hardware limitations, this feature is not there."

2. Lots of RAM. and speakers. I wanna illegaly download whole movies and watch them in grayscale.

3. Color screen. The screenshot is grayscale, but who said ti didn't want people to know it had a color screen? Also, if the grayscale is flickerless, which is impossible to tell from the screenshot, there may be a color screen in it anyway, since color screens produce perfect grayscale.

4. Not too bulky. For size reasons, i would rather have an 89 than a 92. since the screenshot is only the screen, I have no way of know how big the accual calc will be. I hope it's not too big.

5. built in functions such as a quadratic solver and other math operations, such as area finding things, etc.

6. more RAM. Lots of RAM=good. more than lots of RAM=insanely massive great quality games, as good of quality as gameboy color games.

I doubt all of those hopes will be met, but i bet maybe one of them will be.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 16:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Scooblescott  Account Info

*first sentence should be 89/92, not 89/82

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 16:40 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Scooblescott  Account Info

oh yea.
7. a cartige slot for <cough> games </cough> math programs, so they can be more easily sent to the calc

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 16:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Alex M  Account Info
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Hopefully a standard slot, for SD or CF cards.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 19:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Mr.Z  Account Info
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I would love if they would use CF cards, since I already have a 1GB one, but SD is smaller. It probably would come down to the price of the hardware & software for supporting it if they do include a card slot.

Reply to this comment    16 April 2006, 06:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
jesse frey  Account Info

It looks to be bigger and uguler then even the 89T

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 22:17 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
burntfuse  Account Info
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If you want something for games and think calcs aren't powerful enough, get a Gameboy or PSP or something. They *are* meant primarily for math.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 14:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Scooblescott  Account Info

i know that games would be nice, but my primary focus would be programming it. i cant program my psp.

I know it sounds like games were my focus. (they're high up there, but not at the top)

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 20:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Alex M  Account Info
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Try harder, of course you can program your PSP, just not without a little hassle.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 20:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Scooblescott  Account Info

then tell me how...?

Reply to this comment    24 April 2006, 01:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
W Hibdon  Account Info
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Sorry for the profanity the first time.

Speakers = retarded -- x10

-W-

Reply to this comment    14 April 2006, 12:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
sigma_dyn Account Info
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First, please forgive my english. Second, Iīm agree whit this statements, but i want to remark the following points:

1. As far as I know, this calculator was design to compete with the casio classpad 300 and the Hp49g+ in one place where the calculator race for TI is high: Europe. TI has a more market in America. But HP calculator market in Europe is bigger than the USA, thatīs why TI plans to launch a new and a powerfull calc in Europe (HP releases new calculator models in Europe, like the HP40GS in Germany too, this calc have the HP49g+ hardware).

2. For TI itīs very important to beat HP in this market launching a powerfull calculator (superior in harware and software)to beet the HP49g+ and HP48GII, even the TI89Titanium and the V200. I think when this new calculator will be a success in Europe, will be launch in the USA.

3. TI will no take any risk in the AP/SAT (or the European equal) math tests to be rejected by a non alowed tipe of calc.

Reply to this comment    18 April 2006, 00:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
burntfuse  Account Info
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I'd agree with you on #3, since people looking at calcs probably aren't going to want to get a second one for using on the SAT/AP exams (which are common enough that it would matter).

Reply to this comment    18 April 2006, 18:47 GMT

Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
JfG  Account Info
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The hardware won't cost that much: for 140$ you can get a Nintendo DS that probably is more powerful than the TI-nspire.

I would be pretty disapointed if the CPU is clocked at less than 70Mhz, since that's what a HP49G has IIRC.

Finally, since there seems to be a cursor I hope there is gonna be a touchscreen.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 19:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Alex M  Account Info
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Here you can get a DS for ~$160, and a TI-84 for ~$190. I assume that the new one will cost a bit more than the current models, if not a lot more.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 21:33 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Zarel  Account Info
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Dear god! The MSRP of the 84 Plus is $110, which means you can get it for $50 if you know where to look. Anything higher than $110 is extortion, and anything higher than $80-$100 means you should buy from somewhere else. Do you live in Canada or something?

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 01:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Alex M  Account Info
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Canadian dollars, but $1 CAD = $0.89 US, so the difference shouldn't be so big.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 20:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
elfprince13 Account Info
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I got my 84+SE for 135 before rebate.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2006, 03:53 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info

Dear goodness, I hope it doesn't have a touchscreen. Then it really wouldn't be allowed on the SATs.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 00:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
JfG  Account Info
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One exam (especially the SAT...) shouldn't determine what calculator you are going to buy.

Anyway, I am not even sure if a touchscreen is unauthorized, since some people with Sharp calculators with a touchscreen where allowed to pass.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 09:06 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
CajunLuke  Account Info
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He's right, they don't allow it. Sharp doesn't get as much press as Casio, TI, and HP, so the proctor may simply not have known.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 12:48 GMT


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jesse frey  Account Info

SAT I belive is done by the same company as the AP testing so the standards are probably the same for all of them.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 15:33 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info
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Yeah, the evil College Board...

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 21:07 GMT


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CajunLuke  Account Info
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Correct on both counts.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 21:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
jesse frey  Account Info

what I was getting at is that if the Sat's don't allow it then all college board tests probably don't and maybe others would follow suit. essentially saying that you can't use it on the SAT's means more than just one test.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2006, 06:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
CajunLuke  Account Info
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And I was agreeing with you.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2006, 15:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Person Dude  Account Info

Unless it has a restriction mode like the new 84+ OS

Reply to this comment    17 April 2006, 17:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info

Ugg... That would be even worse.

Reply to this comment    19 April 2006, 19:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
jesse frey  Account Info

not really, thier is probably a hack that will get around it.

Reply to this comment    19 April 2006, 21:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Steven Ford  Account Info

sure the hardware wont cost that much, but its the AMS that they need to charge for, since they put a lot of time and money into it

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 16:41 GMT

Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Jason Malinowski  Account Info
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> *very few* quadratic solvers

Hmm...who said we were going to accept any in the first place? :-)

Reply to this comment    12 April 2006, 22:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Alex M  Account Info
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Abstain from butchering and disecting my elaborate, Machiavelian sarcasm.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 00:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
Travis Evans Account Info

I assumed the quadratic solvers part was sarcasm, but I thought it was pretty funny. :-)

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 22:11 GMT

Re: Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
burntfuse  Account Info
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>and *very few* quadratic solvers

Well that would be the good part. ;-)

>As a comment on the screenshot interface, it looks
>cluttered, but then again so does Windows and most of
>us use it regardless. The 68k OS looks ages ahead of
>this one in terms of aesthetics.

Actually, I sort of like it. It's got that toolbar at the top (I recognize those copy and paste icons, they're ripped off from Winblows), but doesn't seem to have menus everywhere or anything like that. And it has grayscale... *drools*

>it looks like a bank card scanner or a price gun

That's what I first thought too when I saw the case.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2006, 14:23 GMT


Re: TI Designs New Calculator in Germany
aspisys Account Info

1. www.dynatech.de has it listed for EUR 20 more than TI-89T

2. follows 1, so it will enjoy as much support as TI-89T, if based on price alone.

It seems to be focused in the same direction as Casio's Classpad 300. The TI-89 is more powerful (overall) from a Classpadd 300. (I own both.) If it's focused purely on 'learning', it may not be as powerful as some would expect. We'll just wait and see -- dynatech has it listed for August 2006 availability. On the other hand, I would like to hope it's all a TI-89 is plus more. (And to think I recently bought a Titanium to upgrade from my TI-89.)

Screen resolution seems quite high based on a demo screenshot that shows the exact same cluttered screen both on the PC and handheld.

Reply to this comment    18 April 2006, 15:56 GMT

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