Hey I would just like to congratulate Aaron on the release. Congrats Aaron ;]







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-danny
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Hey, I have had a BETA for a while....All of you will REALLY love this new shell!!!

So this means that the 86 can emulate both the 82 and the 85?

The 86 has been able to emulate the 82 for a while now, since ASE came out - the problem was that ASE's 82 (and even 85) emulation was so prone to crashing that there was no point in not switching to Rascall and forgoing the 82 emulation. . .

whats wrong w/ Ase 1.3 it never crashes on me while the old version on yas crashed when i tried to run a simple basic program
rascall wasent much better than yas

Your calc must have been broken or something because BASIC is crash-proof. It returns an error when something is written incorrectly.

-Ben Janik

I think the news post was a little rude. "Although most of the features remain static" seems a little biased on Kirk's part because he is also a shell developer. I think a new sentece should replace that one.

It may seem that way, but it's absolutely true. I changed very little besides adding 82 emulation.

Which is better ASE, Rascall, or new YAS, or Zap2000, I use ASE

The answer to that depends on what you use your calc for. If you want security, go with ZAP-2000, i has a great security program. If you want to emulate 82 games, go with YAS v.91 if you just want to emulate 85 games go with Rascall or YAS v.79, I really wouldn't use ASE, as it said on the news article, it is very prone to crashing. BTW, if you don't want any emulation try MSE, Emanon, ect. (there are a hell of a lot of them out there ;)

Jeffrey Malone

From an unbiased standpoint (as opposed to you ZAPO guys), I wouldn't recommend anything without 85 emulation (that rules out ZAP-2000). ASE crashes all the time when emulating anything, and lacks a nifty press-on-to-escape feature. That leaves Rascall and YAS - Rascall has many more features and is completely stable, but YAS allows the emulation of programs > 12k and 82 programs. I recommend having both, using Rascall as the primary shell and YAS for anything Rascall can't handle (besides, Rascall looks cooler =)

Don't dis us! We out number you!
j/k
Anyway, YAS now has that nifty feature to exit emulated programs (ON). But I have to admit, unless you want 82 emulation (like i said above) go with Rascall, great interfac and very stable. We will just have to see how stable YAS .91 is...much more stable than ASE (sorry Bill)!

Jeffrey Malone

While I finished up with testing YAS .79 and all 85ZShell/Usgard programs, I decided to take on Rascall v.9. I put off Rascall testing for my site, since a version with 83ASM emulation was in beta and I figured it would be released. This was back about a year ago.

//Vent Mode: ON//

Know what I discovered? It crashed like there was no tomorrow, and moreso, it was very picky on rom versions. I ran my TI-86 with JUST rascall, and the (85zshell) program testing and boom, crash. Myself with 1.2 got royally screwed repeatedly (you know, where you pull the batteries out for an hour?). The [ON] crash recovery rarely worked, if ever. Eventually, messing with Rascall more on Rom 1.3 and 1.4, I discovered it was as great of a shell as people talked about... Like stability.

//Vent Mode: OFF//

For YAS, it's been pretty consistent with roms 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.6 (through various 86 emulators). 82 Emulation further reiterates consistency. It either works on all rom versions, or it doesn't work at all.

Perhaps I could be wrong about Rascall and Rom 1.2 (it's been pretty hellish for my 1.6 friend as well), but from what I've gone through already, it's definitely not pretty, and all the people suggesting that Rascall was the super-stable shell have really dug root into me. Maybe everyone's just on 1.3 or something.

Sorry, stress buildup-
Alan

Really?? I have had NO problems w/ Rascall emulating anything!!! I can transfer programs directly from the 85 to the 86!! And I've tested ROM versions 1.2, 1.4, and 1.6
Alot of games work!! Even Space Wars!!

Andrew Magness
Wingman627@aol.com

Well, 85 to 86 has no relation to the shell. It's actually built-in to the TI-OS. A program called CalcManager by Keith Batton (somewhere in the archives) allows you to send 86 program files to 85's.

As for SpaceWar v1.00 Beta2 (85ZShell), I got mixed results. It's worked in the past on my 1.2, but recently when I went up to test it... it didn't work. Rascall has proven to be the big magnifier of rom differences, imo.

-Alan

I have a TI-86 with ROM v1.4 and the only trouble Rascall gives me is that it locks up once in a blue moon when I try to run Mario. But I have heard that Mario is just a little buggy itself. As for YAS, I have never had it crash on me.

i often take home other people's calculators from school to stuff them with programs (notably 82's and 86's), and i have a general comment about these ROM problems.

in my experience, the stability of the calculator varies from calc to calc (strange, heh?), so what may work for one ROM 1.2 will totally screw another calc with the same rom ver. i've seen this on every calc i've tested, and it is most pronounced on the TI-89.

-KAKE
IP

I would recommend against having 2 shells on 1 calc, if you happen by accident to run an emulated program on one and then the other it'll crash for sure.

Yup, I've observed that warning -- all my >25k 85 programs that require YAS are kept in their own folder, and YAS never leaves that folder. I went months without a conflict. . .

Personally I like Rascall, because it has the best crash recovery I have ever seen, it has Memory Lock, which can fool people (most notably, teachers), and it has a decent security system.

However, I must say that Zap-2000 is cool, and I am looking forward to seeing it progress, because I think it has lots of potential.

Last, I haven't tried this new version of YAS, so I don't know about it, but when I tried it b4, I found that it crashed a lot...


--My 2 cents


P. S. ASE is OLD!

I would like to say that I think the Beta I have of Final Fantasy: The Calling now ::seems:: to work on YAS! That's nice to know! :) To see more on FF:TC (shameless plug) go to http://macross.calc.org! Thanks for your time, and Thanks for YAS, Aaron. :)

-Josh Morris, Macross Software
dorkremi@hotmail.com