WELL THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR. Now you bumbling fools that always want things ported can't argue.

what?
port this to the 86 now!

j/k

good work guys. everything is just about perfect! it's also nice that we finally have a *real* shell (ie out of beta). you say this will be the final release. how come? what if people suggest stuff for the shell or something?

one complaint: i liked it all in one zip file better. one download and your done.

-KAKE

"now i'm happy" - some ugly bitch on ST:TOS

It should be the final release; this means that I will probably work on other projects from now. But if I can add some very nice features (for example Archive / Unarchive or run a BASIC prog) I would still add them

Nice! DoorsOS is one great OS for the TI-89. It's better than PlusShell (although it's notorious for freezing), and overall is more supported. I'm glad to see it's finally out of beta. Now, let's see some new and different interfaces (how about a CoolShell clone?)!

What are the advantages of using DoorsOS over PlusShell? I use PlusShell, and tried out Doors last time it was updated, and it looked okay, but I couldn't get it to work properly all the time.
PlusShell (almost) never crashes, but it doesn't have many features.

a porn producer was lust after! (just kidding, like i would know? ];-)

my favorite feature is the zip function. i have tons of levels for various games, and when i wanna play one i simply unzip it. piece of cake. (hehe...)

-KAKE

sorry about that reply. i was drunk.

-KAKE

I've used both Plusshell Browser and Doors Explorer. Plusshell identifies only executable ASM files, making it easier to see what games and utilities you have. Doors Explorer shows all files, and you can do whatever you want with them (except run BASIC progs).

Well there's filters in the Doors explorer so you can make it list only asm programs if you want...

Now why did I forget about those? Oh yeah, I never use 'em.

Yeah!... Doors Rulez!... However, there is one feature that could be added: the ability to run basic programs...

I'm just waiting TI's assembly infos....

Why didn't they release it?... I've noticed a bug, perhaps it doesn't deal with Doors but when iran smq, it shows me an "out of memory" error... SMQ is run archieved and i had 72k ram free... i deleted some files and smq ran with 122k ram free...

That's because SMQ has to be copied to RAM first. When it's in archive it will be copied automatically.

SMQ is 42k big and i have 72k RAM free... 42<72, right?... :-) It should work!...

Remember the game itself allocates its own memory above its own size! ( graphics buffer, level storage etc )

AND (I wish I could use at least the HTML tags <B>,<I>, and <U> here) the SMQ readme specifically says you need at least 30k of mem for it to run. Okay, it'll barely get through, but what about if you're using a shell??? Eh??

Speaking of which, does the shell use RAM even if you run another program from the shell? Just want to check.

Would people be willing to petition TI for info? They definitely should have been able to come up with something by now. And since assembly info is talked about in the manual and advertised, I think it would be illegal for them not to. We can threaten suit if they don't.

I agree, and i like to sign the petition!...

I don't know about the lawsuit, but I do think that a petition is a great idea. Sign me up!

BTW, the link under my name points to TI's web site. If you follow that link, and then click on "Discussion Groups" and then go to "TI 89/92", you will notice a thread in which someone (possibly a TI employee) asks what TI users would like to see in a future ROM version. Ray Kramer brought up this issue, saying that most TI users would like to see some asm docs before they get a new ROM version. Anyway, you guys might want to add similar comments too.

I totally agree with you, we have already waited for a too long time !