Survey posted 2002-04-02 09:27 by Henrik.

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I came ready 4 a sick joke-but if i could put programs on here i coulda benefited---

back to reality

i knew it was 4/1 and knew rightaway it was a joke---nice try Nick!!!

You really had me going, until the post that said that there was no TICO stock...We got you there

the Fake news gave it away

who'da thunk?

the little button that said "Hide Fake News Items" kinda blew it...

true but that only came up AFTER april 1

I realized that (hence why I voted that I didn't visit it on 4/1 (I was at Disney World (doing my big huge science project (on my mom's laptop (and in the car on the way down (it took over 18 hours (bad traffic)))))))

Another Lisp programmer in the making!

My tongue thtill hurtth from when I licked that battery...
tho you thould try it everyone!

Too true.

I saw it was from Nick and discarded any fears of truth

don't get me wrong, it was funny, but you didn't have me fooled

It told me the date though;)

Ok I'm a newbie but what is an RPG?

Role Playing Game.

What brought that up?
I like pickles. Please don't respond :)
w00t!

You're sure you didn't mistake him with Nick D?

or Chickendude?

Do such jokes get posted every year? Last year it was the banner thing, which actually did trick me.

I personally was ready for it, but it was funny. On a note, a lot more people would had fell for it if someone hadn't ruined it in the firt 2 replies....

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I think there is more to TI-BASIC then what everybody says. It is possible to network between to calculators using BASIC. The problem is enabling system flags and doing ROM calls. But there is an ASM compiler written completely in BASIC (83 Plus section). I know everyone is going to say my 89 is better then your 83 plus. I agree. 89's have a wider screen & smaller pixels. But TI-85's can't compete. The interface is horrible. And programming is kind of limited. And TI-82 is the only kind NOT to have a catalog! That's utter Bull$h!t. Ok. I'm done. Off to RadioShack to buy a TI-89 (I have to bike 3 miles).

P.S. I think it's Bull$h!t that the TI-83 has more RAM then a TI-83 Plus.

P.S.S. There is a new SDK for the 89/92+ for free @ ti.com.

MacPhisto («RCT¶ªrRöThæл)
Lemon
See through in the sunlight
She wore lemon
But never in the daylight
She's gonna make you cry
She's gonna make you whisper and moan
And when you're dry
She draws her water from the stone

Don't dis the 82! Meany-poo!

BASIC stinks, okay? That's all there is to it. Basic is slow, stupid, stupid, stupid, and did I mention stupid? It's only good for programming on the calc, without a computer, which is stupid, stupid... ASM IS BETTER SO BLAH!

It's okay, flame me, I don't care. This wasn't supposed to be a flame either, in case you took it that way. I just strongly prefer assembly over basic. Thank you for flying on no_one_2000_ airlines. The exits are in the back and front of the airplane. Thank you, and enjoy your stay at the no_one_2000_ hotel. Good bye! (see, I'm crazy!)

Okay, I'm sorry for being a meany-poo. I prefer ASM too. But BASIC can be enhanced using ASM programs. True, BASIC is slow, but sometimes that can be an advantage. Like if you make a Micro$haft Winblows imitation & you want a scrolling line slow enough to see, then go with BASIC.

it isnt impossible to make assembly run slower

I'm sure it is. If anything, just start putting delays inside the program itself.

Here, let me rephrase that for you:
It- -is- -NOT- -IMpossible- -to- -make- -assembly- -run- -slower-
It IS possible to make assembly run slower
same thing (without the dashes)
He just sorta used a double negative...

ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE ASSEMBLY RUN SLOWER!!!!!! I GET IT!! WHAT DOES w00t MEAN?

LOL. w00t!

P.S. TI's going to discontinue the TI-82 soon.

I thought they would have already. It's older than the TI-86, and they've already discontinued that (or so I've heard).

Maybe I should get another TI-86. Then I could test my networking programs more easily. Plus, I want a newer ROM version. Currently I have version 1.2.

technically, they haven't discontinued the 86. they still make it. but, they barely support it and everything they do has either 83+se or 89 plastered all over it. TI is, IMO, losing a lot of profit from the 86 they could make if they marketed it as a compromise between 89's functionality and 83's cost (unless you are talking about an se, which is as much as the 89). This could be even greater if they made an 86+, which could be nearly identical to the 86, but contain FLASH technology, which is basically the staple of the others.

But, if you meant they discontinued the 85, then you are correct.

question on 83+: people said a while ago that the 83+ is "upgradable." is this referring to the flash apps, or can you actually download a newer rom from ti and install it on your calc?

Yeah! The 82 has more RAM than the 83 AND 83 plus!

Not the SE! (with Michael Vincent's Vcalc app of course) :P

Did I say the SE? No! :)
Also, you have a whole bunch more... ARCHIVE! (like you didn't have enough already:)

You can NEVER have too much archive! But it's missing RAM! 24kB?!? TI can shove it up their Linkports (after all, Chickendude said we're all robots (and I have a long link cable, for all the ladies out there LOL (I doubt there are any here (ever since I got my calculator, I haven't had a girl friend :( (I'm one of two Calculator nerds at my school (I must have ChickendudePox with these parentheses)))))) No I'm not perverted, I'm just deprived of a hot girl. And I'm MacPhisto (MacPhisto is the devil incarnate in the form of a tired old Vegas rock star [LEMON!]) To scare away perverted Catholic priests! w00t!

there are good reasons why the 83 has more RAM than the 83+. they start off with a base ram size of 32k, now the TIOS has to take up some part right? well, which has more functionality? 83+, so you have less ram on the 83+.

But The TI-89 Has like 188kb of RAM or Something & it has almost the same amount of options as the TI-92 Plus. I'm not sure. My friend just told me to wait on buying a TI-89, he said there will be a TI-89 Plus. But you don't need a TI-89 Plus because the TI-89 already has Flash ROM. Can someone enlighten me here? And can't the TI-92 have FlashApps? I'M SO CONFUSED!!!
Mofo MacPhisto («RCT¶ªrRöThæл)
Lemon
See through in the sunlight
She wore lemon
But never in the daylight
She's gonna make you cry
She's gonna make you whisper and moan
And when you're dry
She draws her water from the stone

Check out the HerringSoft website above.

Unless the TI-92 plug in Plus module has been discontiuned, the TI-92+ features can be added to the discontinued TI-92. The only thing the module doesn't add to the TI-92 is the darker and better contrast LCD, which the TI-92 Plus has and the TI-89 has. The module retails directly from the TI store for $75. Avaibality of this module, best I can tell been limited. I have not seen it listed on the TI store site. BTW, I have two TI-85 and one TI-86. There are a number of differences between the TI BASICs in these calculators. The TI-85 & TI-86 BASICs are case sensitive, whera as the TI-82, TI-83's,TI-92's and TI-89 BASICs are NOT case sensitive. So on the TI-85 and TI-86, the variables 'M' and 'm" would be different. Not so on the others. So tranfering a program from the TI-85 to the TI-92 can be a problem, where as the TI-82 to the TI-92 would not be as much work to transfer.
There are other differences. So like if the value of 10 is stored in variable C and the calculation 1/2C is done on the TI-85 or TI-82 you will get .050. Where as on the TI-86 and all the others you will get 5. There are differences.

Where'd you get the idea that TI-83 BASIC is not case-sensitive? Z (user-defined real/complex variable) is totally different from z (STAT test statistic).

86 Is NEW and I.M.H.O. pretty good. They aren't going to discontinue it.
MacPhisto-Stay away Catholic priests!

what?!

doth my eyes deceive me?
an 89+?

so long to my good old 89!

where are the specs?
i need specs.

I doubt there'll be an 89+--the 89 is upgradable, so there'd be no point. However, there is a discussion on AMS v2.06 on the linked page.

> But TI-85's can't compete. The interface is horrible. And programming is kind of limited.

Basic programming on the TI-85 not that different than the TI-83 Plus uses, in fact. Though the TI-85 version is actually less limited since you have more choices of variable names. For assembly, remember that there were many TI-85 assembly programs available even before the TI-83 Plus was released. After all, the TI-85 was the first TI calculator assembly was used on. And of course the larger display, and especially the fact that the screen is memory-mapped on the TI-85 mean that it lacks many of the TI-83+'s annoying limitations.

With regard to the interface, note that on the TI-85 menus do not take up the whole screen, so you can easily see what you are selecting an item for, while also viewing the menu. This doesn't seem horrible to me.

What I'm saying is TI-85 isn't as user friendly as the 83+. The wider screen is nice, but it's old. The one calc that is very confusing is the Casio Color one. It may have three colors, but the interface is similar to PuzzPack (not to dis PuzzPack(for 83+(my favorite game (one of the first FlashApps (I'm turning into Chickendude with these parentheses))))). And the on button is where the Clear button should be. AAAAAAAAAAAAH! TOO MANY CALCULATORS!!! TO LITTLE MONEY. Why is TIGL USB $55? My COM port's broken so I have no other choice but to buy it. I don't mean to dis anybody's calculator but from what i've seen I had to comment.
Mofo MacPhisto («RCT¶ªrRöThæл)
Lemon
See through in the sunlight
She wore lemon
But never in the daylight
She's gonna make you cry
She's gonna make you whisper and moan
And when you're dry
She draws her water from the stone

I like to use parentheses(they are fun(fun rhymes with bun(bun rhymes with fun(parentheses are fun))))!!!!!

Next thing will be [square brackets] and then {curly brackets}. Does anyone know how to use square brackets on the 83+? I dunno. If anybody tries enabling all four graphing modes using CalcSys & then hits Y= (F1) & scrolls down, it NEVER STOPS SCROLLING. And my math teacher taught us: FUNCTIONS RHYMES WITH MUNCTIONS!

FUNCTIONS...
MUNCTIONS...
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FUNCTIONS...
MUNCTIONS...
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FUNCTIONS...
MUNCTIONS...
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FUNCTIONS...
MUNCTIONS...

FUNCTIONS...
MUNCTIONS!!!

Also bun rhymes with nun <[{(shudder)}]>
What does w00t mean?

An expression of joy! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!

w00t! w00t! I'm getting a TI-89 for SIX CENTS! :D But I'm not telling where until I get it. Sorry. ;|

Wait! scratch that! My dad will buy me one at the end of the year IF I have 3 A's & 2 B's.
The Fly
PS: The 6 cent TI-89 is available @ the link above.

The square brackets on TI calculators is used for matrices. if you type [[3,1][2,4]] you will get a 2x2 matrix with the first row containing 3 and 1 and the second row containing 2 and 4. This is very handy if you want to type in a small matrix once, but don't try your hand at large matracies unless you have lots of free time on your hands.

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