Survey posted 2001-06-09 22:25 by Andy Selle.

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First Post! Anyway, I use my calc (actually VTI usually) everyday for debugging my game and beta-testing it.

they need a vote for "do you use it for games on vacations in the car. That's what I do.

i have a 92plus and i use it for memos and shti all the time

Yes. I use it for games, and converting bases. u know, bin-hex, hex-bin, etc.. i know there are progs for the pc that do it, but an 89 is a bit more portable, :)

Second post WOHOO!!!! yay!! neways, i use my calc everyday

I like to program everyday anyways, so I use mine everyday.

Me too. That's my contribution to this discussion.

4th post wow im so special:) id use my calc in shower if i could! i use it every day. i actualy got my 82 on vacation! then when i got my 89 and 92+ i waz addicted! thanx for a new survey!

Hello my name is Cuco and I'm addicted to calcs.
But I'm doing better now. In fact I haven't touched them since my math-exam May 17th. So I would say that I don't use them during vacations.
I have a TI-82 and TI-89.

A little sentence to make you think:

Either this whole sentence is false or pi = 4.

There, it is hereby proved that pi = 4.

<i>Either this whole sentence is false or pi = 4.

There[for], it is hereby proved that pi = 4.</i>

Well it is like this the first statment if treated like a string would become String<>String which is always false. ["<>" is old TI BASIC for "not equal," TI-99/4 etc.]&nbsp; So the second statment is also false. The is a word for the first statment, the word is "absurdity."&nbsp; And absrdities are always false.
And by setting up the problem in boolean logic will always prove them false.

---Either this whole sentence is false or pi = 4.

There[for], it is hereby proved that pi = 4.----

Well it is like this the first statment if treated like a string would become String<>String which is always false. ["<>" is old TI BASIC for "not equal," TI-99/4 etc.]---- So the second statment is also false. The[re] is a word for the first statment, the word is "absurdity."---- And abs[u]rdities are always false.
And by setting up the problem in boolean logic will always prove them false.

Ok, so the CGI program converts the symbles and such to HTML so one does not need to type using HTML. I need to pay more attention.

Actually there is only one senctece:

"Either this whole sentence is false or pi = 4."

Lets analyse it.
The sentence is either true or false. If it is false then, by its own statement, pi = 4. If it is true, then either the first statement, "Either this whole senctence is false" or the second statement "pi = 4" must be true.Since we are now assuming the whole sentence to be true, the first possibility is excluded, and hence the second must be true.

This is an example of a linguistic paradox.

Cuco

If the assume it is false, then the info in this sentence doesn't matter anymore. So it is only a linguistic paradox for those who can't read sentences correctly.

We assume it is false because we have to think about both possibilities. False or true. If the sentence is false, it can be false in three different ways because there are two different statements. The possibilities are
f, f
f, t
t, f

Because the first statement states something about the sentence the first (f, f) can never happen because then the whole sentence would be false and that would make the fist statement true. So the whole sentence can never be false.
If the first statement is false and the second true, the sentence makes sense.
If the first is true and the second is false, the sentence falls apart. The first statement states that if the whole sentence isn't false then the second must be. So we only have one logical possible situation were the sentence is false. If the first statement is false and the second is true.
If both sentences are true, well then the second is also.

Interestingly, you can replace the second statement with anything, ex. "The moon is made of cheese." The sentence would still make sense.

Cuco

is this what TI calc dicussions have boiled down to of late?

also - I've emailed the ticalc.org staff and asked them nicley to change my info - but no! they refuse! must I become motivated enough to do most of it myself? I've thought of that but - alas - I couldn't fix the whole problem so why bother trying?

I'm in College Algebra for the summer, so I use my calc pretty much only for "calculations"...Though if the 83+ had a game worth playing (without shells, please!) It would probably become essential to use it everyday.

Either this whole sentance is indeed false, or this linguistic paradox study sucks.

-- Stevie

Who cares, it's opposite day, it doesn't matter.

I have a TI 99/4A. It's pretty cool.

I have 1 too but I can't find a connectiong that will work with my TV anymore because the old one broke and they don't make them anymore.


-JD

what is a TI-99\4A

i agree, what is a ti-99/4A? Ihave heard of one, though know nothing about it...

hah!!! Me with my brilliant mind have ascertained what a Ti-99/4A is. It is a Home Computer made by TI back in 1981, 3 years before i came to earth. Just wanted to let ppl know what a ti-99/4a is.

I also have ti-99/4A.
But i can't seem to get it to work right.
Whenever I turn it on, The letters are subsituted in for other letters.
But I do have two neato joysticks for it!

I have gone through3 of those things. The damn keyboards keep breaking. I'd trade one for a ti-95 in a heartbeet though.

what's a ti-95?

If pi was a string and not 3.14... then the sentence is correct

<i>Either this whole sentence is false or pi = 4.

There[for], it is hereby proved that pi = 4.</i>

Well it is like this the first statment if treated like a string would become String&lt;&gt;String which is always false. ["&lt;&gt;" is old TI BASIC for "not equal," TI-99/4 etc.]&nbsp; So the second statment is also false. The is a word for the first statment, the word is "absurdity."&nbsp; And absrdities are always false.
And by setting up the problem in boolean logic will always prove them false.

But the whole thing can be false, and even if not, it can be deemed BS, which is stronger than false, and automaticly takes precedence over true/false logic.

Presicely. Do not click my link unless you like infinite popups.

Hehe.... That, of course didn't work.

I haven't touched mine since my exams either. I just throw all of my school supplies in my closet and forget about them. As for summer reading, I put it off until about a week before school. I work better under pressure. :-)

Given our current understanding of geometry in this part of the universe (excluding all of the strange things that happen near quantum and relativistic phenomena), that is correct iff you meant pi(x)=4, where 7[less than or equal to]x[less than]11.