Survey posted 2000-10-05 23:39 by Andy Selle.

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I voted for "Nominate the Finalists" simply because it's not working in its current form and when it was done via a nomination system, it did work. If it stays in it's current form then it should be terminated because its an absolute joke in its current form.

As always. click on the web page link to see how I think it should be done.

I think the users should nominate for POTM. By the way, all you TI-89 C and ASM programmers out there... Have you joined my community? It is a great place to share information, tips, and even programs if you wish. Come and sign up! The link is above (under my name).

Aaron

I think that users should only be allowed to vote for programs only on calculators they own. I wonder how many people cast their vote for an 86 program without actually testing it - just relying a news editor's word.

This is a very good point, and I was thinking about it right before I saw your point. I've seen many POTM's in which all the the programs for my calculator (the 89) that were nominated weren't very good and I hadn't tried the rest. I bet people just vote for programs based on the title and on what others have said about them. I doubt that many people have tried enough of the programs to know which they liked more.

Yet that isn't always relevant. For exapmle, what about computer utilites? And also, I have discovered, VTI works on the AMS 2.05 download for the 89/92+ programs, so that you don't actually have to own an 89 to emulate an 89, just get the AMS 2.05 download from TI's online store. And when Rusty Wagner gets around to adding FLASH support for the 83+ and the 73, you could probably also emulate those on VTI. Anyway, I know this because I have done it. I have emulated an 89, versions 2.04 and 2.05, on my calculator (there is a French Website out there with all (I think) Rom versions of the 89, except 2.05, last time I checked, and then I downloaded AMS 2.05 from TI for both 89 and 92+ and I kept the AMS 2.04 download. Click on the link above, it take you to the homepage, just click on enter, then on ROMS 2.0X, and it will take you to the site with all the ROMS on it. It also has 92+ roms on it
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Me and my 1/50 dollar.

As an addendum to my previous comment, the address was flawed. The URL above is correct, and is ti89zone.free.fr not www.ti89zone.free.fr Sorry about that error, but the same thing happens when you try to connect to Cirian McKeesh's (don't know how to spell that name)site.

I want the users to be able to vote not just the TI-Calc staff!! (Although I'm sure they know what to look for in a game besides graphics.)
I was gonna write a long paragraph on this topic but i dont feel like readin the bu!!$shit responses afterwards.

I believe it should definitely be user nomination. This is for the simple reason that the more people vote, the more realistic the impression of a program will be. While this may be hard to implement, this is the fairest way.

You people don't have a lot of common sense. This is the proram of the month. Meaning singular, maybe a lot of this stuff with nominations would work for program of the year, but not the month. And no categories, this is program, not programS of the month. The way it should work is every program that was uploaded during the month that had a minimum number of downloads will be listed in a poll, seperate from this one, and everyone votes. Doesn't matter what calc or language. I bet thought that a TI-89 asm program will will most of the time though.

If only everyone owned equal numbers of all 10 calculator models, this contest would be a lot more fair.

most of us can't afford the $1200 it would cost for all of them, or we are saving it for something else. Sometime I'd like to start collecting graphing calculators (i'm well on my way with the following: 83, 85, 86, and 89), but right now I'm saving to build a computer. Now if only I could find the following somewhere cheap: 73, 81, 82, 83+, 92, 92+...:)

eofpi and the unimatrix's 45.599850351139 cents

Forgot one: the TI-80. That would make 11.

No, I don't own all 11 calcs either. And I don't think anyone would ever need to buy more than 3 of them.

Actually, you have 1 listed twice. Just get the 92, then buy the + module. After that, whenever you want the 92, just take the module out, and when you want the 92+ just put it back in, althought that would probably reset your memory alot.

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Me and my 1/50 dollar.

PS, since it is somewhat relevant to this survey, I think the new one should be "What calculator do you use most often". And note: Not which calculator do you own, what calculator you use most often, because if it was the former, it would have to be a multiple choice poll, which it isn't.

That's what we want to get rid of. We don't want one calculator platform getting everything.

EXACTLY! I think that the program of the month should be changed to programS of the month. Each calculator should have it's own winner (and all the PC programs should be put in one category too). This way, the older calculators wouldn't be competing with the more powerfull calculators that only have better programs because they are faster and have larger screen areas. Then the programs in each category with more than say 50% of the average downloads per program would be voted for. Then the awards would say "TI-86 Program of the Month" or whatever.

"Life's not fair... but nobody said it doesn't have to be."

>> they are faster and have larger screen areas

And don't forget they cost a whole lot more.

The reason the "better" calculators have better programs is that everyone seems to get more programs for them, thus attracting the programmers who want to be more popular. Programs for, say, the TI-85 (which is the only calculator I own since my 83 was stolen), would be just as good if people would make them.

Click for a relic of when the POTM was good and allowed programmers for lesser-used calculators to be recognized. I actually won for my Freecell program (which hasn't been screenshotted yet despite POTM status...)

my 20 öre (my, the dollar is strong against the Swedish krona today)

Sometimes there isn't any good program at all in a category; still, you have to select _something_. So even a relatively bad program can win POTM when there's nothing better released that month.

Wouldn't it be better that if there's too little votes in one category (50%+ vote nothing) there WON'T be a POTM that month?

i'll bet 50% of the people with accounts don't visit once a month. there'd actually need to be a "none of these programs is any good" option. which is probably a good idea.

Why not have a list of choices and have each login have a max of one vote per category (whatever categories are chosen). This way it is the people who speak. If we want to be quirky and choose a wierd program then so be it. But keeping the voting secret until the end of the month will keep it from being a trend. Oh, and If you wait till three-five days before the end of the month to open the voting with a possible period of nominations before it, then the programs will already be out.

My $0.02

What does it mean to get Program of the Month?
Best written? Not always.
Most useful? No, as the award very often went to games.
Most popular?

Most hyped.

So its meaningless in other words. Kind of like voting for a presidential candidate because he gets a ton of media coverage...applying the mechanism used to pick prom queens to ticalc.org