Survey posted 2007-04-30 05:42 by Michael.

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I could be way off, but it *does* seem like it's shifted towards younger people (13-15 instead of 17-20). I guess we'll see when this poll closes.

17, almost 18 here.

17 Rules!!!!!!!!!

Im almost 16 here. Just 2 more months. The younger population is the one who uses the calcs in school mostly so it is only natural that most of us learn to program. I am interested in seeing how this poll turns out also.

That, and the teachers in high school now require graphing calcs so of corse people look for games and find this site and there you go...younger members!

The sad thing is, once you get to college precalc/calc1 you can't use any calc so you have to re-learn basic algebra, trig, etc. by hand.

I'm in Calc III in college and I am allowed to use my TI-89 titanium on tests. I'm almost 19 by the way.

I took Calculus II and my TI-84+SE is already outdated (looks like 89's are preferred). A graphing calculator was required since I took pre-Cal. A graphing calc was recommended but not required for my Trig class. Oh yeah, I'm 14.

Forgot to say, I'm 18.

I started college last fall and took Precalc; Calculus of One Variable I; and Introductary Linear Algebra.

In Precalc, we could use a 4-fn calc for the first few weeks, than no calc at all. In Linear Algebra we can use one but only for row-reducing matrices (and they separate the tests to make sure)

I also took Precalc in high-school (but it didn't qualify for the college prerequasite) and that required a TI-84+ or TI-84+SE.

It's really hard because everyone is making mistakes with algebra, graphing, and factoring.

I use my TI-89 for my pre-algebra 8th grade class.

...and calc in my spare time.

i'm 15 but close enough to 16 that i voted that way, i got a voyage 200 to handle differential geometry, it actually helped a whole bunch. i've been able to use it a surprising amount, in this one college math competition (the questions were so hard they didn't really care) and on all of the tests and homework in diff. geo, of course we could use maple too, but i don't live on campus...

oh, and i forgot, i've got a brother that's 13 who is obsessed w/ his 86, i'll have to get him an account so he can vote. i think that maybe the fact that there are no votes under 13 could be explained by that, they don't have accounts...

Maple is what we use in calculus, it's very annoying because I have Visa and it's got some issues...

yeah, maple's a bit of a pain, that's another reason i got a 200. but there are some things that maple's got over the 200, ok a lot, but the basics are pretty much covered by both, 3d graphing is a big difference, and conjugate garbage in cross products: you can't get rid of it on the voyage, as far as i know...

>>"maple's a bit of a pain"
I'll agree with that one...on Vista, if you move the mouse while classic save/open window is up it erases the file and closes...regular maple doesn't save...

I've checked a lot of the work on my 89 but unfortunately we have to print and turn in the maple worksheets to prove we did it on maple...

I'm thrilled I had my last exam today in math so I'm unofficially on summer :)

yeah, we've finished finals, too. it rocks, our professor actually had a maple lab as our final, but it was so hard that she felt bad and gave everyone full credit and let us go, it was awesome!

I'd blame Vi$ta there, not Maple. M$ is getting worse and worse at backwards compatibility.

I would agree but they said it should work fine on Vista...

I'm also mad that I can't find any backup software for Vista...everyone said that it had all this full system backup built in...WRONG! I'm still waiting for either Norton Ghost or Save & Restore to come out in stores. I don't want to reinstall everything when MS burps, I want a system backup that can rewrite the OS, programs, etc. exactly as they were at the time of the backup. I had Ghost9 on my old XP computer, now I want something to do that on my replacment computer!

This is a tricky issue, though, because preserving backward compatibility is also one of the reasons for Windows' inherent weaknesses, especially when you have to preserve it for years and years' worth of past standards. It seems like you can't win either way--or am I wrong?

No, I agree.

They need to do what Apple did: Way back when, when they moved from 68K to PowerPC, they supported it for a few years (I think they had some sort of emulator, but I'm not sure). When they moved from Classic Mac OS to OS X, they had support to run Classic programs on PowerPC programs for a while (I think it may still be there in PowerPC 10.4.9). When they switched to Intel processors, they have support for running PowerPC OS X programs (Rosetta) -- but they dropped Classic support. When the Next Big Thing rolls around in a few years (they're going to run out of numbers they can stick after 10. before too long, because 10.10 looks silly), I don't doubt they'll drop support for PowerPC OS X programs.

I think its a good thing that vista incompatible, that proves that they've made something better than an upgraded dos (as win XP is)... ill just stick to xp until a better, more "compatible" os is released

btw im 17 years old, we got our graphin calc ti83+ :( when i was 14 years old, 2 years later i was learning assenmlby, i think im pretty far now. because laptops dont have a serial link port, im using my sisters calc (ti84+) to test (asm) games :)

I always find it funny that you always use '$' in everything ms related, more than anyone else i know/see online regularly. I find it takes too much effort. Haha oh well, linux ftw ;)

I took Calculus III at a community college while I was still in high school, & they let me use my TI-92+ on the tests. Then again, community colleges do not count. In linear algebra (at ASU) we actually were required to use Maple on the tests. Physics thankfully also allows the TI-92+, because all those units & integrals get annoying after a while.

Yes, when we get to sciences, any calc is accepted. It's just the math department that restricts it.