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Choice Votes   Percent
No, it would be redundant 81 33.1%   
No, people will abuse it 13 5.3%   
Yes, new members will need it 17 6.9%   
Yes, why shouldn't there be one 56 22.9%   
Undecided, I'm fine either way 14 5.7%   
68K Rocks! 64 26.1%   

Survey posted 2004-04-26 06:25 by Morgan.

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Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Jiaqi Wu  Account Info

I think they should make it link directly to ti-83plus or something like that so it wouldn't take up extra space on the server but it would still be called the ti-84plus archives.

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 02:23 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Timm Bogner  Account Info

I think we should have waited to vote on this until the 84 has been more widely tested. We don't know for sure if the clock/USB will be esily accesable from BASIC, or if that many people will utilize these functions. It seems that on the TI-89, not too many programs actually use the clock feature.(Please correct me if I am wrong)
I think it would be more practical if there were folders within the TI-83plus directorys that were "TI-84 specific". These would be located inside the subdirectories(i.e: 83plus/basic/games/84specific/)

68K Rocks!
-TB

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 04:39 GMT

Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
coinmanz  Account Info
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That is the most brilliant solution yet...Such specific subfolders, for the 83+SE, 84+, 84+SE, 68k HW1, 68k HW2, 68k AMS 2.07-2.09, and 68k FLib would decrease directory size and increase organization - all while not really giving in to possible stat cheaters. Recap - USE HARDWARE OR OS SPECIFIC FOLDER IN THE SUBFOLDERS!

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 05:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Drantin  Account Info

I'd rather there be more columns on the page to sort by... (for the 68K stuff anyway...)

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 22:44 GMT


Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Andree Chea  Account Info

Even if the clock/USB sending wasn't easily accessable, there will surely be a programmer out there to make an ASM utility to do so.

Reply to this comment    28 April 2004, 14:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

The 84+ guidebook can be downloaded from TI:
84silver.com/downloads/docs/guidebooks /EN/TI84PlusGuidebook_Part2_EN.pdf
(I would've used the URL box if it hadn't complained about this link being to long.)

If you read it, you'll see that both the USB link and the clack are only briefly mentioned. Nowhere does it say how it handles the dual link port. Also, while there are a number of functions in Basic that use the clack, they are not exactly covered (or even promoted) in the manual. The clack-functions that exist are checkTmr(, ClockOff, ClockOn, dayOfWk(, getDate, getDtFmt, getDtStr(, getTime, getTmFmt, getTmStr, isClockOn, setDate(, setDtFmt(, setTime(, setTmFmt(, startTmr, and timeCnv. This list comes from the "incompatible with 83+" section. The only other place they are mentioned is in Appendix A.
Nice detail; Chapter 15 still claims every commands in the catalog can also be accessed through other menus, except the six string fucntions, and the six hyperbolic functions. This dates back to the 83-; it hasn't been true since the 83+, which had Asm(, AsmComp( and AsmPrgm. Now it is even less true since the clack-functions are only to be found in the catalog.

Reply to this comment    29 April 2004, 00:48 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Jack Palmer  Account Info

It should have its own folder because consider the extra space and speed it has. New programs could be developed that is only practical to be run on the TI-84+ and none of the older calculators. If someone ever decides to write a 1mb 84+ program, by all means, it needs its own folder!

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 04:51 GMT


Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
archnaid Account Info

If someone decides to make a 1MB 84 program, not only would it not fit on an 83+(SE), it would not fit on an 84 unless an 84 has more than 1MB EEPROM, in which case the program would have to be a FLASH APP...and I don't know much about 83's, I tend to think they are a waste of time except for their stat abilities, but do they even have EEPROM?

Reply to this comment    28 April 2004, 00:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

Both the 83+SE and the 84+SE have 1.5 MB of Flash ROM. There is no reason why a 1 MB app wouldn't fit. (There is also no chance that I'd install it on my calc, unless it's really worth 64 pages of Flash, which doesn't sound very likely.)

Reply to this comment    29 April 2004, 00:51 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Vincent Jünemann  Account Info
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I don't know if this is said already, but why not make a subdirectory in the 83+ directory where 84 ONLY programs can be uploaded (Like the ION directory's in ASM Directory). All other programs which run on both will only be uploaded in the 83+ directory. This way you get the advantages of both.

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 10:35 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Kevin Ouellet  Account Info
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There is some programs that require to run at 15 MHz and there may be rpg in the future that takes 1 MB of ARC memory on a Silver Edition.

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 19:11 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Teoryn  Account Info

To lazy to check if it's already been said, but the speed of the 84's and 83+SE are greater than the 83+, so I think we should at least have a 83+SE / 84's folder.

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 20:59 GMT


Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Teoryn  Account Info

ok, so now I look at the post above mine....yea. same thing.

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 21:01 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info

I'm undecided...new users might be confused if there wasn't a separate directory labeled TI-84+, but there's no point if they're compatible, and that just makes it harder to find a program...

Maybe the '83+ directory could be relabeled "83+/84+".

Reply to this comment    27 April 2004, 22:37 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
anykey Account Info
(Web Page)

The answer to this problem is simple...just make a new directory for 84 programs, but also tell of its compatability with the 83. Hey, and whatever happened to the idea of sub-folders that would categorize programs? Ex:"guessing games", "racing games", "shooters"

Reply to this comment    28 April 2004, 01:34 GMT


Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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The survey results showed that everyone favored rating the files method. However that whole process hasn't been fully implemented and probably won't until more programs have been rated.

Reply to this comment    28 April 2004, 18:18 GMT

TILP - Linux
nicklaszlo Account Info
(Web Page)

Yo! Link program writters! When will there be a Linux USB driver? Will the old one work?

Actually, I can't get the old one to work with my silver link and Mandrake 9.1. I had too many libraries missing. I'll try again when I have my new SuSE install.

Reply to this comment    28 April 2004, 03:45 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Jake Griffin  Account Info
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What is the "68k rocks" choice for? Is it like the libertarian or whatever in politics? Only there to defer votes from the "enemy"? I'm sorry if I messed up the "libertarian" thing...it may be something else...I don't remember...

Reply to this comment    29 April 2004, 15:57 GMT


Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
(Web Page)

It refers to all the people who think that the z80 calc is a piece of sh** and for the most part couldn't care less because they will most likely never buy a 84 series calc. (or have never bought a z80 calc at all!)

Reply to this comment    29 April 2004, 20:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
TheGreatOne Account Info

Yup, that would be me. Let the good times roll.. although I do plan to get a TI-84 SE this May to counter 68k banning teachers..

Reply to this comment    1 May 2004, 00:50 GMT

Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
anykey Account Info
(Web Page)

Yay! they got rid of that pointless string posted by "programmer2000". He's got problems.

Reply to this comment    29 April 2004, 22:54 GMT


Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
TrumpetMan258  Account Info

Yeah, but his account still exists. I hope they get rid of it, too, so that doesn't happen again.

-TrumpetMan

Reply to this comment    30 April 2004, 00:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Should a TI-84 Plus directory tree be created for uploading when it's completely compatible with the TI-83 Plus?
anykey Account Info
(Web Page)

He'll probably register a new one, though.

Reply to this comment    1 May 2004, 16:39 GMT

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