Survey posted 2004-02-08 07:45 by Morgan.

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In french tutorials would be easier to understand....
But there isnt ti-fr anymore....

I AM THE ULTIMATE TI PROGRAMMER!!!

well, almost...

I'd like to learn 83+asm, any 83+ specific *complete* tutorials out there?
83+ BASIC GOD! *cough*

A tutorial written by Sean McLaughlin is quite complete. It is called 83pa28d.zip and it covers basically everything. I am using it right now. I am not quite a god, but I know ALMOST every BASIC command possible (I don't know statistics commands...).

heh if I learn any more programming languages, it's not going to be for the calculator. I think that I might murder Java and then hold up its dead body and show it to Perl and say: "Make me understand or else." But more seriously, I think it would be better to learn a more practical widely-used language than a calculator language.

then get a 68k and learn c...

yeah I know... I need an 89, but I would rather just get a new computer ;) And of course C wouldn't be new to me so it would kind of defeat the purpose.

There are a lot of differences from regular C, actually, so it is like learning a new language (even if you already know C for the PC).

It's the exact (or very close) same language. The 68k calcs just use different *functions* from the standard C libraries, although standard functions like printf etc. are still available with TIGCC.

then learn python, heh. Nice C++ like scripting language used on many websites, the way of the future. See my link, mon.

Hmm... well, I don't have any interest in learning 68k asm, since I already know C... and I already know z80 for the TI-82, at least. I might use the exclusives to expand knowledge, but not to learn a new language.

Well, I can still learn some new languages. Except I really don't have a reason to...

I think that if you've had your share of Calculator programming, then you should move on to C++. Java can be good, but it's fundamentally stupid.

DOWN WITH JAVA!!!

Even though I'm in AP Computer Science, I have to agree, Java is evil.

public class JavaEvil{
public static void main(String[] args){
System.out.println("JAVA IS EVIL!");
}
}

See how much typing that is just to display a string? That's sad...

wow
i thought higher level languages were supposed to make things easier...

For large programs, yes. For optimized or small code, stick with C or processor specific ASM or something, lol. They also give better portability, I guess.

I'm aiming for Java (more specifically J2ME) so I can start coding cellphone games.
All I can say is that it's a horrible, horrible language...

>>stick with C or processor specific ASM or something, lol. They also give better portability, I guess.


Processor-specific ASM gives better portability??

>>Processor-specific ASM gives better portability??

Between calcs, yes. ;-)

I think he means HLL's give better portability.

hmm. Are you saying that the equivalent program written in x86 assembly would be easier?

Please.

But if you wanted to display another string, it's hardly ANY more code...that other stuff is basically in EVERY program, so you could pretty much just have a template file with that stuff, edit it to add the display string method, then save as a new file...that's what I do. I'm taking a Java class right now, and I think it's very cool. It's SO easy to display objects and such. I've made a few cool programs so far including a fractal generator. It's really cool (if you can learn how to use it right).