Survey posted 2003-03-24 00:19 by Henrik.

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1988, yep. i'm 14. Good survey idea btw, except that there won't be a whole lot of discussion about it before it gets really off-topic.

Me too, lol. Doesn't seem to make much sense to put 1993 or after. Thats only 10. Oh well, gotta go.

Gerhalt

My sister is going on calc #2 and shes only 12, bound to be plenty younger.

I'm sure she's bound to be much older, not younger...... unless time reverses itself.

Does your sister go to this site though? It's not whether they have a calc or not, it's if they go to ticalc.org...

well, the only reason she has the calculators is to play games on them, what else can you do with an 89 when the rest of your math class is going over long division?

1978... im 24... yeAH... i knowe, i'm old

Did you knowe your not the best speller of knowe?

Did you knowe that you make more spelling errors than he does? ;-)

just 4 the rekord: it's on purpose...

Whoa! that Gauss guy was right!... look at the results of this survey ;)

I'm only 12 :)
I got my calc when I was 11...started programming when I was 8 :)

Wow. What language did you program in?

17 (1986) - I started programming at the age of 8 too (with BBC BASIC)

What's BBC Basic like?

BTW, BASIC stands for "Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code"

It's an advanced BASIC language for the BBC Micro - fairly low level.

I know :) QBASIC is the best basic :) (says me)

Because it's fast and easy. But, it's not professional. :(

I programmed in a strange language called Logo, and soon after moved on to BASIC, then Visual Basic, etc. etc... :-)

c00l. I think I've heard of the Logo programming language (it is for the robotic "turtle" called Logo, which was developed at MIT, right?). Actually, there is a Logo emulator app for the TI-83+ right on this site.

Yeah - you move around a turtle to draw lines, etc. with commands like FD 100, RT 90, BK 50, LT 20.

Wow... i remember Logo, with the turtle. *shudder* i hate macs. Anyhoo, there is a version of Logo in the Flash section of the 83+ directory. It's pretty cool, despite it reminding me of the evil apple :)

Woah, now.... What is so wrong with the Macintoshes?

I'm 16: 1987.
Programming since I'm...um...12!

I'm 16 (1986)... I see that 1986 gets the most votes... ya...
I start programming in mid-elementary school, BASIC, though...
I learned JavaScript in fifth grade and it is still my best language.
Maybe I will favor C > JavaScript as time progresses...

Yay! Javascript! It was my first language too, only I learned it in 6th or 7th grade (can't remember which). The thing I like about it so much is... it's free... you can do anything... the syntax isn't strict... but the problem is... error checking really stinks on it.

Dude, same year, but not quite 16 yet.

I feel like a baby on here. I started programming for the 89 6 months ago. I anyone has any advice, or even a place for me to go to learn 68k asm, I would be greatful. It is not as if I know, I've had to resort to C, wich is all fine and good, but I feel like I'm missing out.

technoplaza.net -- the best for both C and A68k.

If you have any questions, just ask them, and hopefully somebody will know :) I'm pretty good with everything but file i/o. I'm still a little rusty in that area, though I used it in KBL.

Also, when you have NOTHING better to do, read through the C libraries... you can learn a lot by doing that.

I'm 20. I started programming when I was seven (1989), doing old-school (good) BASIC on an Apple II (or II GS, I can't remember). Anyone who is too young to remember an Apple II GS must be shot. :-p

*BLAM* OWW!!!!!!

Obviously, I don't remember it... oh wait... I might know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure... when I was younger, I used a lot of old computers, but I can't remember them too well now.

lol, not that old, but I do remember messing around with the games that used a text file to save. That was fun... You could just change a few numbers, and viola! Oh well, not like now...

Gerhalt

*BLAM!BLAM!BLAM*

*curls up*
*dies*

I had absolutely no interest in programming until I got my first TI Graphing calculator in 7th grade. After that, I couldn't stop programming (Help! my fingers are out of control! Can't...stop...handling...calculator! j/k)

in 7th grade, i couldn't stop fondling the school calculators (cheap ass TI-83s).

All I had to program in 7th grade were TI-81s

My old school had about 20 TI-82s :)

My CURRENT school has 20 ti-82s.

My curent class has about 20 TI83+ they sell like limonade, everybody has one (not me, I have a SE)

Just out of curiosity, are you French? "limonade" in the french spelling of a lemon soda, I believe. :)

Yeah... I remember when I "discovered" them in the store... I was like "Oh my gosh, they're so NEW!"

That sounds EXACTLY like me:
1. In 6th grade I got my 83+ and began BASIC programming, in 9th grade I got the 89 and expanded my BASIC knowledge to many more TI's, then, in 10th grade I took a C++ class at a community college, and now I'm taking a Motorola 68k assembly language class! :)

Yay! That means you can program in real asm for the TI-89/92+! (It should be very similar)

It *should* be identical, since that's the processor family that the CPU in the 89/92+ belongs to.

And since the OS is the same isn't it?

No... anything calculator-specific would be different... pixel plotting, certain memory areas, integrating the OS into it, but the ASM syntax would be the same. (I'm pretty sure, at least)

All of the 68k TI calcs have the same size and location of LCD memory. The TI-89 just shows less of it than the TI-92(+)/V200. But you are correct that anything calculator-specific would be different. That is a matter of the specific platform (calculator) and not of the underlying language (68k assembly), which is the same regardless of the platform (besides the different flavors of 68k, like 68020, 68060, or 68080).

Organinzed programmers usually put platform-dependant code inside individual routines/functions (such as functions for getting keypresses) so that the rest of the code is portable.

BTW, 1983 baby!

LOL, I'm five years behind you (1988).

Yeah, when I was thinking of calculator-specific stuff, I meant keypresses, width/height of LCD screen, 89-OS stuff...
Since I don't know the ASM language (only C), I still have a lot to learn about that :)

I was referring to the actual assembly language, not the implementation of it. The commands would be identical, although some values would change (i.e. memory locations, graphics mapping stuff, etc.).

Yeah, I was so obsessed with BASIC programming when I was in 6th grade (I think it was). That was before I know of computer links, ASM, ticalc, or other types of calculators ;-) It was me and my TI-82. (Sounds like a song name) Anyway, I made so many "games" (they're so stupid, but they're memories *aaawwww*) that I filled up the whole RAM. That's a LOT of cr4ppy basic programs :)

I remember Apple II GS es. I also remember that from the mac history sites, they were made for something like 10 years... Pretty nice for the time they were introduced. Hey, I still see operational ones.

Eight? That's pretty good. I would have LOVED to start programming when I was eight. Since I was five, I wanted to make games/programs. I finally got my hands on HTML and Javascript when I was 11. (Took me long enough, lol)

Heh, heh. I didn't get a computer until I was 13. I had my calc when I was 12, and I programed for it for the longest time. I thouht Penguins was the coolest ever. Then, I got Yuri's Revenge on my computer. Boy! Quite a difference!

No computer until you were 13? Wow... I can't imagine that... *faints*

13 is a little older than I am now!
(Let's see if anyone thinks I don't have a computer...)

I still remember, I had computer classes when I was in 1st or 2nd grade. Of course, we only had Windows 3.1 or something around that number.

LOL, when I was about that age, I used DOS, Win3.1, and Win95 (95 was the advanced stuff). DOS was probably the easiest ;-)

My school system only have macs for public use. I guess that is where I get my love for them. The only crappy thing is their security is too good.

-W-

So you like breaking into things? hehehe....
The OS for the Mac is too different for me. I'm used to Windows.

My family got a brand new Windows 95 computer when I was 5 and I always screwed around on it, and learned *everything*

That kind of got me interested in programming...

LOL, the Nintendo got me interested in programming (five years old), but I never did until 11. *sigh* Then the Nintendo was way out-of-date. My goal was to make a Nintendo game ;-) LOL Guess if I ever do, I'll need to use an emulator or something.

Speaking of which, does anybody know what processor an old NES runs on? (Please be z80...)

I dunno, but I think it's 16-bit.

It's 8-bit... but what does that mean?

it canc process a maw of 2^8 bits of data in one cycle. I wish TI would release a 32bit calc. It would be the fastest out there...

Wow... I'm old. 17, to be exact, going on 18 in August (stupid selective service). Been programming since i was 14, starting with the 83, then moving to the 83+/SE christmas of '99. For most of this time, was working on BlakJak Pro, which is now available at ticalc or calcgames (believe me, it took me a while to build up my skills).

You're not old. There are people plenty older than you! Bill Gates is older than you, for one, and he's a... um... *tries not to start argument about Bill Gates like I did a few days ago*.
Anyway, I'm 13 and I started programming when I first got my TI-92 NOT plus 2 years ago. Of course that was before SOMEONE stole it. I wonder if I'm ever going to find it...

If you find the person who did it, then beat them up. You can tell the principal that I said you could :)

I second that. Stealing something is one thing, but TI graphing calculators go deeper than that.

Hear, hear!

Someone stole my TI-89 in my senior year of HS, and I was really peeved. I bought a TI-92+ to console myself, but it's just not the same.<sniff>

What's with TI-calc stealers?!

Message Board Cop agrees, calcs are one thing that should never be stolen. Haven't people learned not to mess with nerds yet?

Yeah... if the nerd becomes a g00d h4x0r, then good-bye jock! (The worst thing I could do is change their password for their school account... lol, I'm pathetic)

Correction, stealing a TI form a PERSON, goes deep.....

*grr* I would be so ticked...

I'm telling the truth, if somebody stole my calculator and I found out who it was, I'd do everything I could to put them in as much pain as possible. Nobody touches my calculator! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (But of course, what can a skinny little nerd do other than kick in strategic places?)

This is my 7th year in TI-Programming. Though I am a professional programmer in business field, I still do what I love, programming games in calc. I remember how boring it was in school and TI was my savior :-).

www.maxcoderz.com

Hey, I figured out what he meant! (To clear up the controversy)

His sister is 12, so most likely there could be other calc users (maybe that program or go here).

I am amazed that most people that program calcs (or at least have participated in this survey on this site) were born in 1985 and younger.

I'm not... I guessed most people here would be around their sophomore year, and it seems I was right (or pretty darn close). I guess people are learning to program at younger and younger ages.

Quick OT story... I was looking back at my old ASM programs that wouldn't run for some inexplicable reason (made most when I was 12)... and I did some of the dumbest things. I never realized that CP used subtraction for its equality tester, I never knew that 8-bit and 16-bit registers weren't compatible (Well, I did, but I didn't seem to show it), I didn't realize that CALL GET_KEY used the A register, I couldn't correctly use PUSH and POP, and hopefully, as time goes on... I'll find the errors to my current program (flying ship game... very simplistic) as easily as I found the errors to my dumb programs. :) Then, I could make more advanced programs.

Heh, heh! This reminds me of, well... me! I started learning Z80 ASM late in life at age 15 (I think) and I thought I had mastered it by then (don't we all think that? :).

I wrote over 600 lines of code for a game, and, believe it or not, it didn't work! Fortunately, it didn't crash; it exited when I pressed EXIT (as I wrote it to do).

I couldn't even remember at the time the differences between the different rotate instructions (RR, RRC, etc.), so I had to "draw" little diagrams in the ASM comments next to those instructions.

I don't think I was bad as you were when I was starting (nah nah), but I was also older and had a book that describes each instruction in detail.

BTW, are you interested in things like multithreading with ASM? I've written routines to multithread on a calc, and I MIGHT be able to teach you about those things if you'd like.

Oohh... multithread? Wuz that? (Now I feel like a n00b... I hate that feeling) I use the 82 (primitive, lol) for ASM and I always make the stupidest mistakes. :) I wonder if I'd be able to understand it (lol)
The one thing I never did get was interrupt routines... I was absolutely clueless, though I know there's an I register.

How old are you?

What is weird is that someone did.

Ironic, isn't it, that the previous survey (with only 1 option) is followed by this one (with 21 options). In fact, I think that this survey has the most options ever on a ticalc.org poll.

Really? Well, you may be right... they usually contain four or five, right?

You should know. You seem to have voted in most of the polls.

Yeah, but you're more "senior" (I can use that word now, lol) than me by about 3000-4000 ID counts (You had a 17000 account, didn't you?). But yeah, I do go here quite frequently :)

This is really random, but did anybody see the AMCE tests? GEEZ! If I would have taken them I would have gotten AT MOST a 1/15 (but most likely a 0/15). Those are pretty darn hard. Has anybody gotten all 15 correct? (genius people)

Last year was the first time I took one of them. On one question I knew how to calculate it manually but that would have taken to long so I wrote a simple BASIC prog on my 89 in acouple of minutes and I later found out I did it right. I was only off a couple of points from going to the next level.

LOL, same thing here... with both stories :) I made BASIC proggies to solve stuff for me, and I was also extremely close to making it to the AMCE (or whatever it's called).

yaeh, same here. these conversations always get off topic

Painfully obvious......