TI Calculator Support on Linux
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Posted on 22 July 1998
The following text was written by Nick Davis:
One thing I've recently come to regard as a hindrance to the proliferation of
TI calculator linkage (the ability to transfer files from calc to PC and from PC to calc) is
the apparent Windows-centric attitude adopted by many developers, as well as the users
themselves. Don't get me wrong, I realize that ~85% of all ticalc.org users run some form of
windows, but there are many of us who use Linux as a primary OS. According to the general
user survey in the Surveys section, Linux/Unix ranks third
among the most widely used OSes. That being said, it is a bit presumptuous to think all TI
calc users are of one breed, using the same OS and platform for TI calculator programs,
utilities, etc. I've been a member of the TI calc community for several years now, and
an observation I've made is the community (vis-a-vis PC-calc programs) is mostly DOS or
Windows oriented. While it was of little concern a few years ago, today that has changed,
as more and more people are switching from windows (and other OSes) to Linux (and other free
Unix-like OSes). It is not surprising most Windows users don't consider this an issue, for
why use another OS when everything runs on windows? Well, there are those of us who've come
to realize the importance and validity of an open source OS, as well as the sheer power and
flexibility provided by a Unix operating system. Before this article becomes an OS debate,
allow me present my primary argument: there should exist Linux ports of the TI-Graph Link
software in addition to the win/mac versions from TI. Furthermore, the source can and should
be released to foster development and the porting of the linking software to other
platforms. I'm sure many of you in the TI calculator community would be interested in
porting, or at least providing some assistance, the TI-Graph Link software to an unsupported
platform. If the source was released, the software could also be expanded to include
support for homemade parallel and serial cables, as well as enhanced with new features
(screenshot capturing utility, a real-time calculator display on the PC, and other
innovative concepts). I recently emailed TI with this idea. Here is the response (along
with my original message): Subject: Re: TI-Graph Link software
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:04:02 -0500 From: cpalomino@ti.com Nick,
Thank you for your recent email. We appreciate your support of our products.
While we have no announced plans to support these OS's, I will forward your comments
to our software development team for further review. I regret to inform you
that Texas Instruments does not release information on the pin-outs, protocols, or API
of its calculator link products. This is proprietary information, so I will not be
able to release it to you. If you have any further questions or comments please
feel free to contact us at your convenience. Please copy this message in your
response and send directly to ti-cares@ti.com for faster service on replies.
Kind regards, Christopher Palomino
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========================== I have a request regarding the Graph Link software.
Would it be possible for TI to release the source of the software? This would be a
tremendous benefit to the TI calculator community, enabling further platform support
for the graph link software, thus increasing the market for potential customers.
The primary reason I personally would like to see this is I use Linux as my primary
OS, and as such, a port of the graph link software doesn't exist for my OS. If the
source were released, a competent programmer could relatively easily port the
software to X11/Linux, or any OS, with a bit of effort. In this manner, TI would
not *officially* support such ported software, as it isn't an "in house" product
or service, but it would remain a very useful alternative to those such as
myself, seeking a port of the graph link software for their particular OS. The only
other solution, should source code release be undesirable for some reason, is for
TI employed programmers to port the software to the requested OS themselves. This
is a major undertaking in itself, for there exist many OS/platform combinations,
and it would be cumbersome to provide support for the new platforms, in addition to
the existing win/mac offerings. Open source successes such as Linux, Perl, the
Apache webserver, and most recently Netscape Communicator, have demonstrated the
open source development model, utilizing potentially millions of software
developers around the world, is a valid means of software development, in many cases
superior to proprietary methods. Thus, I ask that you seriously consider releasing
the source code to the graph link software, so ports can be made to other OSes and
platforms, for I would venture to say many TI calculator customers use an altenative
OS. Thank you for your time and consideration regarding this matter.
(Sorry for the length of the message, I tried to cut as much as possible.)
Apparently it is the "official policy" of Texas Instruments to contain the source of
their products, in this case the TI-Graph Link software. While it appears we've reached a
barrier, I believe we can influence this decision, and ultimately revoke it. I propose the
maintainers of ticalc.org create a new survey entitled "Should TI release the source of
their TI-Graph Link software?" We can prove there is adequate demand (and therefore valid
reason) to release the source if many of you vote. C'mon, people...show your support for
this significant issue and vote yes. In this manner, everyone would benefit by having more
extensive platform support, as well as an improved transfer utility.
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Microsoft Windows ''95 rulz da computer mundo!
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Bill Gates
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Im rich!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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3 April 1999, 00:26 GMT
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Re: Article: "TI Calculator Support on Linux"
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Jens Kristian Søgaard
(Web Page)
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Hi All,
I just wanted to say, that I during 1998 developed
a somewhat complete Graphlink program for especially Linux.
It's 95% Java-code - thus quite portable. It currently runs on Linux, various types of Unices and ofcourse Windows95.
An Amiga port is very possible.
It supports sending/receiving programs, screendumps, StatData => Spreadsheet (for plotting on the computer), etc.
More information is available on my homepage.
Please email me, if you want a copy of this piece of software.
Thanks.
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29 May 1999, 00:46 GMT
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PProtocols ?
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Sami DALOUCHE
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If there isn't any linux program to transfert data to-from calc-pc, is there a protocol supported by TI & Linux : i.f.n for the ** Calculator (I do not say the brand), there is Kermit & Xmodem and this allow to transfert data.
What is the protocol used by TI calc ?
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21 September 1998, 20:18 GMT
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PProtocols ?
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Sami DALOUCHE
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If there isn't any linux program to transfert data to-from calc-pc, is there a protocol supported by TI & Linux : i.f.n for the ** Calculator (I do not say the brand), there is Kermit & Xmodem and this allow to transfert data.
What is the protocol used by TI calc ?
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21 September 1998, 20:19 GMT
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Re: TI Calculator Support on Linux
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TechBunny
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gtktilink by rom seems to cover most calculators out there!!!
gtktilink.ticalc.org
but it does lack some support for certain calculators, if anyone knows any simple ways to figure out calculator protocol's let me know please!
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9 February 2000, 08:16 GMT
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Re: Article: "TI Calculator Support on Linux"
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Dan
(Web Page)
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I´m a Amiga-user, same problem there. Maybe a Java-port would be the fastest way to reach a maximum of platforms within a minimum of time.
I mean write the programs in Java and the release both a bytecodeversion and versions compiled to binary for specific platforms as WIN, MAC,Linux etc for better speed
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31 July 1998, 13:11 GMT
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Re: Article: "TI Calculator Support on Linux"
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Steve Herrin
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Although I've never tested this (other people in my house use the computer and would die under linux), I think that Cal, a dos program, under dosemu might work. This program suupots all calcs and can be found in the dos/linking archive. Tell me if it works.
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27 September 1998, 19:55 GMT
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Re: Article: "TI Calculator Support on Linux"
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Josh Rothenberg
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Are they afraid that someone else will make a link cable that will work with their software or that someone will adjust their software to work with other link cables or something? They're crazy.
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6 August 1998, 03:22 GMT
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Re: TI Calculator Support on Linux
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LinuxUser
(Web Page)
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I support the linux system as much as I can. Owning a TI83 plus has become a burden to me because of my exploration of the linux operating system. There are ways to get through this barrier: Wine (the windows emulator) and Basilisk II (Mac Emulator). If you are reading this and use linux, I would reccomend using these two tools to "port" TI Graph Link to Linux. But, as you know, Linux is a member of the UNIX family. Therefore, it can run UNIX programs. If there is a TI Program for UNIX or configuration of wine/Basilisk II that could end this feud, please email me @ hanerrusty@yahoo.com. And if TI would make a program for linux for a TI83+, please let me know. If I find any configurations of wine (www.winehq.com) I will post them on my website, http://hanerrusty.homelinux.net
Thanks,
LinuxUser
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9 August 2002, 03:55 GMT
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Re: TI Calculator Support on Linux
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zzo38
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I think it shud be a free program, but you hav to bi the link cable to conect it to the computer, or if you no how to make it yorself do it (and pay for the parts to make it).
I think ther shud be 1 device file for the files on it, and you can mount it and acses the files that way.
I also think ther shud be anuther device file for sending direct comands to the calculater.
Also ther shud be a (comand) program for makeing screen shots in XBM file and uther kinds, and uther stuf conecting to the calculater. Ther shud also be a program for the same thing in X-window.
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1 September 2002, 03:38 GMT
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Re: Article: "TI Calculator Support on Linux"
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L.G.
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The TI winlink software appears to run when executed using the Wine emulator (version 990110-1). I haven't had time to configure the serial port under Wine, however, so I still do not know whether one could actually transmit programs to/from one's calculator...
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11 February 1999, 18:22 GMT
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