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Re: TI-H: Mel??? Err /: BYE!!!




>Dell has 92% loyalty. (PC world survey '97) Gateway has 92% loyalty, I
>can provide other higher than 70% loyalty compaines. :) What does Apple
>have? I bet now with all the problems its at max 60-70%.

They aren't having problems now.  :P

>Sorry, I don't
>buy that. Apple is small and measly because it IS small and measly. It
>needed Microsoft to help keep it ALIVE!

MS needs apple to keep it alive.  Bill Gates has no sense of creativity.

>People look at them as dieing
>because there is virtually no software for it. No, you compare Apple to
>the sum of All its PC competitors. You are trying to falsely make Apple
>look like its larger than it is. The PC market is filled with clones,
>and to be a fare comparison, you take the sum of all PC manufacturers
>and compare it to the DIFFRENT Apple computer.

You have to compare company by company.  Either that, or add all of the
Apple IIs that are in use now.

>For Movies, SGI is what the pros use. Macs are crap when compared to SGI
>machines. Sorry, TV shows (Most noteably Star Trek) may use Macs. Most
>don't.

Ummm...  :)  You're wrong.

>Because they are nothing in their own.

Because if you buy a Mac you get the best of both worlds.  Not half of one.

>So does Win95/98. So? It requires more skill to operate, and more time
>to learn to use its features, but after you learn, it is MORE POWERFUL.

More powerful compared to my TI-82.

>But, I guess a simple OS, for simple tasks is okay... :) The more
>diffacult to OS is to learn, the more POWERFUL the OS is.

You are *way* wrong on that.

>DOS was more
>powerful than Windows, and MacOS. And Unix is the most powerful of all.

In that case, press Command+power on a mac and you have a computer that is
more powerful that DOS, Unix, since most people don't know how to use
MacsBug.

>No its not. You need a Mac technician to do anything with hardware.

No you don't.

>On the few software titles made for it, but the true reason for buying a
>computer is GAMES. (Yes! Belive it or not!) And PC hardware/software is
>light years ahead of Apples in that respect. 3d cards, which Mac doesn't
>have. (NOTE TO GRANT: This means NATIVE hardware, not PC hardware in a
>Mac)

O get a life.  Apples have way more good quality 3d rendering cards than
PCs.  Just because there is some chinese $20 card that does pictures of
boxes, that doesn't count as good.  Or is that what good is on PCs?  The
cards on mac perform faster anyway.  If a card is made for PCI, its made
for *COMPUTERS* not just IBMs.  :P

>You can't. You don't have access to simple system controls.

You don't know nothing about a mac.

>You can't
>hack the Memory Settings

you shure as he** can.

>if you feel like it, you can't overclock

You can either buy an overclock kit or clip resistors on your own.  There
are soo many overclock kits for macs.

>if you
>feel like it. You can't do as much with a Mac as with a PC.

You're right.  You can do way more with one if you try.

>On a PC, pressing a paperclip in a small hole releases the
>tray/caddy.

Hmmm..   I don't know how many macs you've ever seen, but every single one
I've seen has a paper clip option.....unless someone decided to save some
money and use cheepo IBM hardware.

>This feature did NOT work on the Mac. (I can't remember
>Model #, but I think it was a <something> 601.) Another thing, IBM users
>can buy a new HD, install it INTERNALLY without having to get a tech to
>do it.

If you can't unplug a ribbon cable, put the new hard drive in, and plug the
ribbon cable back in you need a tech.  it is too easy.  This e-mail you
sent me is a joke.

>Mac users buy EXTERNAL drives or get a tech to do it.

Nope.  Mac users buy a combination of IDE and SCSI and its all transparent
how they all work together with the system.

>Proof? Hardware to hardware bench. Bechmarks can be cheated. Maybe the
>G3 designers made the proc so it would inflate the Bytemark, w/o
>actually an increase in speed. A PII-266 does 471 MIPS, a G3 366 671
>MIPS, where is the big diffrence? 100 Mhz, only a diff of 200 MIPS?

You *CANT* compare MIPS between architectures.  You should know that.

The PC uses CISC technology, PPC uses RISC.

>PII-333 for $2200. Complete with 8GB HD, 19 in. Monitor, 24x CD, Modem,
>PCI Sound card, NIC card, STB Velocity 128. Low end on PC costs $1000.
>with monitor. High end is as high as you want to pay. PII-300s go for
>$1400. (Sorry, try looking up #s instead of saying yours are so
>wonderful, they might not be.)

You can get a mac for that price easily.

>Ha, recent powerbook adv. Lowest $2300, higher $3200. High quality PCs
>go for ~ the same prices, but lowest P233, $1400. Next.

Intel uses lowpower (low performance) chips in laptops.  IBM's G3 chip is
so low power that they can use it in laptops without modifications.  WIth
apple, you are getting a desktop computer in a laptop case.

>Okay, PC is the original Shareware/Freeware market. PC's are the
>MAINSTREAM, Macs are a Small niche. Linux started out on PC, the
>MOTHERLOAD of Freeware is on PC. Sorry, next.

Linux didn't start on the PC.  The PC was a junky computer that IBM
released back in the ol' days because IBM wantted to use 8bit technology
instead of 16 like everyone else...

You need to check your specs.

>Hmm, you use Macs and C128s. Where is your Amgia? <sp?> ;) Macs are not
>ahead of their time, they were in 1984, but now, they are crap. No one
>wants them, except Mac users. You can't survive without new people
>buying them. Grant said 150,000 iMacs in 10 days. I don't have sales
>figures, nor does he to back that up, but I would estimate that many PCs
>are sold a week. (If not more)

make your PC do this.  I took out my 3d rendering card (mainly for my video
and photoshop work) and ran software emulation for 3d effects.  I ran at
60fps which  a 233MHz G3 could do at 21fps without the card.  PPCs improve
in greater leaps.  Unlike 5% faster each processor like Intel.

>A note to people who want to further this argument, PLEASE LOOK UP FACTS
>ON THE PC.

I know the facts about both.  I run a mac www server and a pc ftp server at
gussie.alaska.net.  I run about 3 different flavors of linux on the PCs and
macs.

>If you don't know them, you can't argue.

And your argument is laughable with all of the false claims that have been
made.



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