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TI Marches Onward
Posted by Michael on 9 August 2003, 21:14 GMT

TI has redesigned their calculator website, education.ti.com. The layout looks much better than the old version, in my opinion. There also is a new tutorials section, linking to a large number of tutorials on a variety of topics for all popular TI calculators. Unfortuately the 86 isn't covered, nor has TI made it easy to find mention of it anywhere.

TI also recently sold their 25 millionth graphing calculator, as noted in this press release.

 


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Re: TI Marches Onward
JcN  Account Info

The website still has the same orange and blue theme, though. Why wasn't the 25000000th calculator name mentioned in the article?

     9 August 2003, 22:48 GMT

Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Paul Schippnick  Account Info
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It is my understanding the TI's number one selling graphing calculator is the TI-83 plus.

     10 August 2003, 05:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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It looks the best and is advertised the most. Hence it is the best selling.

     10 August 2003, 22:18 GMT


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angelboy Account Info
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It is also one of the easiest to use.

     17 August 2003, 20:56 GMT


Re: ~
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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but a lot less powerful in terms of software.

     18 August 2003, 23:25 GMT


Re: Re: ~
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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For that, we have the good old TI-89!!!!!! :)

     19 August 2003, 15:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ~
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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My point exactly. I support the 89 over any of the other TI calcs, except the 92+ and V200.

     20 August 2003, 03:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I think I support the TI-89 over any other TI calculator because it's more accepted in schools and tests, but the v200 is a VERY poweful calculator.

     20 August 2003, 17:46 GMT


Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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How would they know exactly when it was bought? That doesn't make sense to me. Everytime somebody walks out with one at Office Depot, Target, Wal•Mart, etc. they immediately know that it was bought?

     11 August 2003, 14:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Matthew Marshall  Account Info

Maybe it is just that the 25,000,000 was sold to the retailer. There could still be a couple thousand stocked in retail stores that need to be sold before the 25,000,000 makes it to the user. (Especially sence stores are now stocking up on school supplies.)

MWM

     11 August 2003, 16:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Could be. I was thinking that. That would be cool if somebody knew that they purchased the 25,000,000th calculator, though. :)

     12 August 2003, 13:55 GMT

Re: TI Marches Onward
Gergely Patai  Account Info
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This is ridiculous. The site is full of 404 links.

     9 August 2003, 22:50 GMT


Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Matthew Marshall  Account Info

I did not come across any... Of course, with my 45K connection I did not get very far before I got bored.

MWM

     11 August 2003, 16:29 GMT

Re: TI Marches Onward
JcN  Account Info

Fortunately, the TI-86 nor the TI-92+ are under the discontinued product list. The only place I could find mention of the 86 was as the recommended replacement of the TI-85. I couldn't find any mention of the TI-92+ anywhere, not even as a replacement recommendation for the TI-92!

     9 August 2003, 22:56 GMT


Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Probably because they don't sell the 92+ anymore. The literally was it's replacement since most if not all 92+ programs (apps) work on the voyage 200. I see little reason to keep the 92+ around since the v200 looks cooler and has more memory/ram/archive apace.

Sad about the 86 ;-( Funny I actually mentioned that the 86 had been not listed on their site anymore a coouple of days ago in the current survey. Even had a link up to the new page. And yes, it does take a long time to load the front page. I liked the old site better because I could find the linking software a whole lot easier. Actually I haven't found it yet on the new site.

     10 August 2003, 03:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Funny... the site didn't take long for me to load at all, and I have a 56k modem. Of course, the speed also seems to depend on the time of day that I'm connected to the internet.

     10 August 2003, 17:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Alex Simon  Account Info
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I think TI is trying to get you to go buy the TI 83 Plus by dropping the TI 86 since it is not a hot seller any more. Either that, or looking into getting a TI 89.

     11 August 2003, 17:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I think the TI-83+SE is sort of replacing the TI-86. It can do most of what the TI-86 can do (and stuff that the TI-86 can't do... flash ROM stuff), and it has lots of advertising for it, so that's my assumption.

     13 August 2003, 14:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Matthew Marshall  Account Info

What can the 86 do that the 83+ cannot? (I am asking a question... not criticizing the 86... I haven't even seen one yet.)

MWM

     13 August 2003, 17:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, that's what I've been told... that it can do stuff that the TI-83+SE can't. Well, I'll look into this. *pulls up TI-86 ROM on VTI* ACK! That menu system is so weird.

Hmm... well, there's stuff on here that I'm not sure that the TI-83+SE can do or not. Either way, there's plenty of apps for it that probably do all of this. I don't know what the SIMULT thing is (I should find out), um POLY appears to find the zeros for a polynomial, I can't figure out what VECTOR does... oh, it has plenty of conversions (like the TI-89), um, it has a character list like the TI-89... actually, I'm not find too much that the TI-83+SE can't do... and I think the TI-83+SE has a polynomial solver APP... Hmmm... Oh, it looks like it can do differential equations..... Well... I would definitely stick with the TI-83+SE. But on the other hand, the TI-86 does have some good games. *plays Megaman 86*

I just really do not like that menu system.

     14 August 2003, 15:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
Matthew Marshall  Account Info

Interesting... It does not sound like it does much more. Do you suppose that VECTOR does vector arithmetic/conversions? I wrote a few BASIC progs for that on my 83+se.

BTY, where did you get the 86 ROM?

MWM

     14 August 2003, 23:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Marches Onward
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, it's illegal, but I'm sure you could find one if you looked hard enough :D

     15 August 2003, 18:22 GMT


Visit PlayMyth.NET & click on "What is Myth?"
Ti-89_Coder Account Info

Personally, I'm more of an 89 person and I don't actually have a physical Ti-86... However, I am aware of some advantages it has over the 83 series. Firstly, the 86 has much more RAM than the 83/83+/83+SE series does. Secondly, the 86 has a higher resolution screen (it's more like the 89 than the 83+ in this regard) Also, the Ti-86 has something special about its LCD display (I'm not an 86-ASM coder, so bear with me here) that allows page flipping. I think it's because 86 ASM programs can change the start address of LCD mem, whereas 83+ ones cannot. This allows the Ti-86 to have grayscale graphics without the 90% loss of speed suffered by the Ti-83+. As far as mathematical features go, however, I do not know what advantages the 86 has over 83's.

     16 August 2003, 02:10 GMT


Re: Visit PlayMyth.NET & click on "What is Myth?"
Matthew Marshall  Account Info

It is the math features that I am wondering about. I already know of the hardware features.

MWM

     18 August 2003, 05:52 GMT


The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
burntfuse  Account Info

The '86 has mathematical advantages too-the '83+ doesn't have a simultaneous equation solver or a polynomial solver without applications that take up memory, built in conversions or constants (except for e), the ability to graph _99_ equations simultaneously, different graph line styles (good for telling them apart), the ability to store equations for the equation solver, and also, the equation solver of the '83+, unlike the '86, can only solve equations starting with 0=!!!! (It still is possible to enter any equation, but it requires rearranging-sometimes difficult with a very complex equation). All of these features just mentioned ARE available on the '86. The '86 is also easier to use in some ways-the graphing is simpler, you don't have to press 2nd to exit from a menu, and it's a lot easier to type lowercase letters.

     18 August 2003, 14:34 GMT

Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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BUT... the TI-89 can do ALL of these, plus much more.

     18 August 2003, 18:05 GMT

Re: Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Too many people don't know that. They are simply saticfied with what they first see, they don't take enought time to look around at the selections.

     18 August 2003, 23:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Time to start a big TI-89 advertising campaign! *dances around room holding TI-89 in the air* Okay, that might not work. :)

     19 August 2003, 15:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Too bad most parents (calc iliterate) won't dish out the extra dough. Also the 83+ SE is advertised as having a whole lot more memory than the 83(+) and a lot faster. The 89 is not compared to any other calc so most parents will go for the 83+ SE. It is a blatant marketing trick that can be found all over the place.

     19 August 2003, 23:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, I'd think that TI would want to advertise the TI-89 the most, as it (IMO) is their best calculator.

     20 August 2003, 17:49 GMT


Re: TI-89
p00ya

The TI-89 isn't allowed here for secondary examinations anyway, although TI-83, 83+, 85 and 86 are. could be another reason ;)

     27 August 2003, 09:51 GMT


Re: Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
burntfuse  Account Info

I agree that the TI-89 is better than any other calc-I was just proving that the '86 is better than the '83+.

     21 August 2003, 15:24 GMT


Re: The 86 is better than the 83+ in more than hardware
Benhur119

Which calculator did you say has no constant for "e"? I hope you meant the TI-83+ because I know for a fact that typing in a lower-case "e" in the TI-86 returns the value 2.71...

That's all I know.

     26 August 2003, 10:23 GMT

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