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Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Posted by Eric on 15 April 2003, 21:52 GMT

We interrupt your regularly-scheduled programming to deliver the news that the Poincaré conjecture has reportedly been solved (though it still must go through a 2-year verification period). For those not familiar with it, the conjecture is one of the seven most important unsolved mathematics problems chosen by the Clay Institute with a $1 million prize each. Check out a dumbed-down explanation of Poincare's Conjecture.

 


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Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
acr34  Account Info
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Heh I don't really understand it. Geometry was never my strong point. But I got many years of math left to go, and congrats to whoever did it.

     15 April 2003, 23:04 GMT


Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
molybdenum  Account Info

heh, 4d geometry never was my high point

     16 April 2003, 00:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Sticking rubber bands around doughnuts isn't mine either... I eat them. And what does that have to do with 4D geometry? *whimper*

     16 April 2003, 02:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
William Heaton  Account Info

A normal old sphere like a baseball is a 2-sphere. Now try to picture a 3-sphere.

     16 April 2003, 05:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
William Heaton  Account Info
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here is a 4 dimensional cube. it bothers me. i dont want to begin to think of what a 3-sphere looks like. i would shoot my self.(ohh, and on this page is the sourse code for the program that draws it, someone definately needs to make it in to a calc program)

     16 April 2003, 06:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Jeeze! Talk about a mind trip. If I had a little more time to think about that I might understand why it looks like that, but not right now.

     16 April 2003, 17:47 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
William Heaton  Account Info

it looks like that, because there are 3 cubes intersecting at each vertex, just like a normal cube has 3 squares intersecting at each vertex. i still cant picture a 3-sphere

     16 April 2003, 19:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Okay, now it makes more sense. Thanks

     16 April 2003, 22:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I knew that... but my mind is still too small to comprehend such a thing ;)

     16 April 2003, 22:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Same here ... I STILL don't see the cubes intersecting ... I just see something that looks like a hexagonal prism ... oh well, I'll leave it to the mathematicians to mess with 4D stuff. I'll stick with the 3D.

     17 April 2003, 09:08 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Chickendude  Account Info
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I'll stick with 2D, thank you :)

     17 April 2003, 17:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
ac  Account Info

But, 7d stuff is so fun!

     17 April 2003, 18:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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To see the intersections you have to drag with the right mouse button.

     17 April 2003, 17:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
saibotshamtul  Account Info

thanks for the explanation. now i can understand why it looks the way it does, but a 3-sphere is still disturbing

     22 April 2003, 20:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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talk about an acid trip. this is more confusing.

     17 April 2003, 22:40 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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ok, THAT made me dizzy. i'm going to go throw up now.

     16 April 2003, 19:25 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
lord_nightrose Account Info
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"someone definately needs to make it in to a calc program"

I've already tried, with minimal success.

     16 April 2003, 22:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Oh yeah... I think I remember that.

     16 April 2003, 22:23 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Whoa... that's... interesting. Who thought up that anyway? It doesn't seem logical since in real life, there's only three dimensions.

     16 April 2003, 22:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
William Heaton  Account Info

There are only 3 dimensions that we can see. But it is likely that many more exist. Most theories that deal with things at the atomic or subatomic level (such as string theory) require many more than 3 dimensions. Then there is Hilbert space, which contains infinite dimensions.

     16 April 2003, 23:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I know that there have been either at least 10 dimentions proven or theorized to exist. BTW some guy determined that from the book of Genesis.

     17 April 2003, 17:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Peter Martijn Kuipers  Account Info

Considering we an use time as the 4th dimension:
Try to picture a sphere as a circle growing first fast then slow 'till it's at it's max, then shrinking slow then fast, 'till it's infinitely small...

Now make it a spere growing and shrinking, and you've got yourself a 4d-sphere/disk or whatever it's called in 4d....

     17 April 2003, 19:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
William Heaton  Account Info

time is the 4th dimension of space-time. not the 4th dimension. It is different. Dimensions in space have units of meters.

     20 April 2003, 21:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I hate the fact that the US does not use the metric system. There are too many people with IQs too low for the actual switch to occurr in this nation.

     21 April 2003, 21:33 GMT


Metrics
CALCUL8R-FREAK  Account Info

I live in Tennessee, and I use the metric system daily. I think it is much easier than the US system.

1 mile=?!?yards
VS
1 kilometer=1000 meters

:¬)

     15 June 2003, 19:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
angelboy  Account Info
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It's impossible. If anybody's ever read the book FLATLAND, they would know why.
First, imanage you live in a 2-dimensional world. It would be impossible to try to show what a sphere looks like with only a circle. Just like it is impossible to show what a circle looks like with a line, if you existed in a 1-dimensional world.

     17 April 2003, 23:43 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
William Heaton  Account Info

look at a 3d picture, it is flat, there are only 2 dimensions. but you trick your eye into seeing 3.

     20 April 2003, 21:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poincaré Conjecture Proven
saibotshamtul  Account Info

then how come we can see four dimensional cube on a 2-d computer screen when you follow the link to the web site of the guy who first replied to the same post you replied to? -ha-

     22 April 2003, 20:52 GMT

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