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Archives Partially Re-open
Posted by Magnus on 10 November 2001, 15:50 GMT


As our screening progresses, we have now created the scripts and programs we need to open our archives section by section, as they are screened. Right now, this means the Windows, DOS and TI-86 sections. An up to date list of which sections are open and which are still down will be available on our front page at all times. Sections that are down will result in a "403 Permission Denied" error from the server.

For the time being, only http (web) access will be open to the archives. Ftp will be added back on at a later date.

We have removed several programs from our archives in the screened sections. Our focus right now is on getting the archives back online, so we may in a few cases have removed programs that should not be removed. These uncertain cases will be reviewed once we have completed the screening of the rest of our archives. Feel free to report any such program to webmaster@ticalc.org, and we'll add it to our queue.

Once again, we are sorry for the trouble caused by this.

Update (Magnus): TI-83Plus and BeOS sections are now also opened.


The comments below are written by ticalc.org visitors. Their views are not necessarily those of ticalc.org, and ticalc.org takes no responsibility for their content.

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Nathan Haines  Account Info
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First comment. Now quit being silly and post something constructive. :)

     10 November 2001, 15:53 GMT

Repost of prior article: Let's rethink the whole censorship issue
Rgb9000  Account Info

I had posted this elsewhere, but I thought it was worth posting again.
Woah, Woah, WOAH! I've been away from the community for a few weeks, and look what happens! Lets not go off the deep end here with this censorship thing! We (most of us, I think) live in AMERICA, land of the free, and we have something called "FREE SPEECH". We also have something called "FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION." This means we should NOT be censoring things, so lets rethink the whole censorship issue. I think you should not delete any material from the archives. How are you going to define something as "bad", anyway? What if there is a genuinely good game, a RPG, that in one scene shows women's breasts? Would you take away the entire game just for one small image?And what about the E-Books? There are some classic novels in there. What if someone wanted to put 'to kill a mockingbird' in the archives? Would it be disallowed because of some light language? 'The grapes of wrath' has racial slurs referring to African americans, as does 'Of mice and men'. Besides, what is inappropriate in one country may be acceptable in another. Also, you might misconstrue something the author said for bad when he really meant good. I dont know the exact nature of the content, but destroying things like drugwars is crazy! Why would you do such a thing? These works, beleive it or not, are ART. They are independant works, pieces, and ideas meant for sharing. Students sharing with other students. I dont think anyone over 20 or not in school comes to this site anyway. If you dont like it, dont d/l it! Noone is putting a gun to your head and telling you to download things. After all, we are'nt TI, we can have whatever we want on this site because it is an independant site, not a corporation. We arent selling anything or making any money.

If you decide you must censor, here's my solution: You should just sift out the 'inconsistant with our values' stuff into seperate folers, and to access the files ,you had to be a registered user of a certain age. You could set up an age thing in the user profile, and if you were under X years old, you could not access the folder. So just put everything objectionable in a seperate folder with lots of RED WARNINGS & DISCLAIMERS at the top. You could have BOLD RED TEXT saying: Everything in this folder is inconsistent with our values, we reccommend you do not download, bla bla bla... but still allow users to download those files anyway. And(oops) when authors upload stuff, if it doesnt meet value requirements x, y, and z, they would be required to mention that it should go in those folders or else. Or else what is up to you. So, if i wanted to upload a game that in one scene had nudity, I would have to mention that nudity in my upload request, and if I failed to, you could issue me a 'warning'. Any user who wanted that file would have to have an account and would have to have an age entry in thier profile that was appropriate to even access the folder it was in, say 16+. Or a check box saying "Display inapproriate content." Checking that box in your profile would allow access, unchecking it would prevent it.

Besides, sometimes people might write their first program, and it is more of a test, and sometimes people use other people's work for thier own research or experimentation. (Source code, etc)

I just dont think that deleting our past is appropriate at all. TI CALC:DONT DELETE ANYTHING, PLEASE!


Rev. #3

     14 November 2001, 17:27 GMT

Re: Archives Partially Re-open
stu floyd  Account Info

nice to have 86 back up, not many sites devoted to that calculator on the net

     10 November 2001, 15:54 GMT

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Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
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I only have 83 and 89. Hope they'll make 89 section to be available next.

     10 November 2001, 23:40 GMT

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Ditto. Make the 89 sections go up. TI-89 is definitely the superior to all the other calculators.

(Except maybe the 92+ but that's about the same thing anyway)

     12 November 2001, 20:37 GMT

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Magnus Hagander  Account Info
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A small addition - the file ranking system is still down, and will be down until the archives are completely screened due to interconnections between different areas. All files will show the message "This file is new and has not yet been ranked".

     10 November 2001, 16:00 GMT

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     10 November 2001, 16:45 GMT

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Ask Jeeves!!!!

     10 November 2001, 18:16 GMT

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     10 November 2001, 19:03 GMT

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bdesham  Account Info
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(but Google's better!)

     10 November 2001, 22:49 GMT

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     10 November 2001, 23:33 GMT

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     11 November 2001, 00:21 GMT

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doniguan  Account Info
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Popcorn Buttered Window Sales!!!

     11 November 2001, 00:36 GMT

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lord_nightrose Account Info
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Jesus Christ Superstar Extravaganza Nasal Discharge Combo Platter!

     11 November 2001, 01:48 GMT

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Seeing all these erratic responses saddens me. I remember a day (read: last month) when people who owned calculators were actually smart and somewhat mature. But all that has changed. Responses now don't make any sense whatsoever. I am sad to see how far downhill ticalc.org and it's people have gone.

     12 November 2001, 05:44 GMT

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lord_nightrose Account Info
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Holy Anal Leakage, Batman!

     12 November 2001, 07:09 GMT

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It is terribly saddening isn't it.

     12 November 2001, 20:38 GMT

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S. G. Account Info
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Beaucoup. (That's both a response to your comment and another search site!)

     12 November 2001, 20:48 GMT

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no_one_2000_  Account Info

Oh, you, lighten up!

     13 November 2001, 01:38 GMT

I know
Model_Q37xL_Version_6.0  Account Info

Yeah Beta I agree ticalc.org has gone downhill, and in my opinion will never be the same as long as they decide to censor things. We cannot use words like F---, s--- or c--- anymore, but ask me I think absolute irrevelance is worse. It's like a total mind-rot! Then again though, it is freedom of speech; its ugly side but its all that's left here.
Oh yeah by the way, this is only somewhat relevant, but if anyone has the file "inbreted.zip" (which was removed from these archives) can they email it to latsaslak@hotmail.com? I lost my mastercopy, and as the author who spent 3 months writing it, im upset that I lost it! plz!!!! thank you!

     13 November 2001, 04:15 GMT

Re: that ^
Model_Q37xL_Version_6.0  Account Info

I got the file. Thanks Magnus & Ryan!!!

     21 November 2001, 22:39 GMT

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The intelligence generalization should not apply to everyone, although my first impression was the same. Making stupid comments simply confuses some and angers me. Say something intelligent or don't say it at all.

     17 November 2001, 01:23 GMT

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no_one_2000_  Account Info

I agree

     13 November 2001, 01:37 GMT

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Rgb9000  Account Info

You people dont know what you're talking about!!!
3w.HOTBOT.com is the best search engine! Click advanced search and you will get more options than any other search engine i've seen. It used to be, and might still be in the top 5 search engines.
Except for maybe Copernic, or (untilwemeetagain in spanish).???.??, but lets not discuss that here.
The only thing google is good for is the cached sites.

     14 November 2001, 17:34 GMT

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Ebay Largest Online Market Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     5 January 2002, 00:10 GMT

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