Nice article! Very professional and structured for a first article.

Meanwhile, this could be a first comment.

NOT REPLYING IN ANY WAY to the previous comment... just wanted to get to the top of all of the posts...


what ever happened to program of the month?

Was there not an article a while ago about suspending of POTM?

And this could be a second

o yea,nick you spelled article wrong in the top of the article...

You spelled "oh" and "yeah" wrong. You also missed the space after your comma. Your sentence isn't capitalized, and it doesn't end with a period despite it being a full sentence.

Oh yeah, Do you think I give a flying f@#$?, Because I sure don't.

hahahahahaha.....

You missed a comma after "period," so I wouldn't talk.

You forgot to make an error in your message so I could make fun of it. :P

You forgot to put the word "that" after the word "so". Your sentence, therefore, means that you can make fun of their senctence because there is no error in it, rather than what you intended.

Gawd bless thuh Englesh langwidge.

LOL... This all reminds me of one message board on another site I've been to whose members spend most of their time complaining to each other about their spelling. Intrestingly, someone complained about somebody else's grammar, yet the complainer didn't spell "grammar" correctly.

Hehe! Sounds... annoying.

hmmm it seems my program I submitted about a month ago still has not been updated even though Patrick Davidson's programs are updated on an hourly basis...

Yeah, I know what you mean Keltus. When the title was "Plethora of Programs" I was really hoping for my program to be updated, but it STILL hasn't.

yea, I'm almost tempted to *gasp* submit my program to calc.org instead

Guys, Nick B does his best, there's a *lot* of programs come in. Having said that, if you posted a month ago it probably has gone AWOL, so you could try resubmitting it. Are you using the new file uploading form, because I've found that quite reliable.

Incidentally, Wade, are you the same guy who sends mail to talk.origins ?

If your program isn't submitted within a month, complain to the file archivers. Pic >> Z80 was updated immediatly after I complained.

I doubt my program has gone AWOL. It's an update and besides, if you check the new program logs you will see that for the past MONTH there has only been ONE basic program for the 83+ and it was a game. So either people no longer make basic programs for the 83+ suddenly or file archivers decide not to validate them because they don't want to play basic games/science/math programs.

I just think they're extremely biased against non-assembly games

I don't think this is true. I think they are sometimes annoyed by the very simple BASIC programs that are submitted, but I don't think any are actually vetoed. I would expect that those that aren't put in may be done so for legal reasons, or reasons of taste.

But there are many excellent BASIC games; have you tried the "Quake" game for example ?

Yes, and the new updated version of my baseball game (noted in the Web Page thing under my name) I'm making a much better one, and it's almost done. Now, there's just 2 things to fix. If you want to download this one for now, you can. (It's for an 82.)

This is slightly selective reading ; for the TI83 there have been half a dozen in the week before last Saturday.

If the maintainers were removing TI83+ Basic programs why not do it for TI83 ones as well... what's the difference ?

I've seen you on IRC ; why not ask Nick ?

If you try submitting the file again and it says something like "Failed to insert into database", it means your file is still there waiting to be approved.

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is AWOL? I don't know much about computer abbreviations I'm afraid. Yes, I've used the new file upload form, but it has taken much longer than usual for my program to be added to the archives. Perhaps I should try submitting it again.

Talk.origins? *Laughs* On occasion, I have submitted mail to talk.origins under the name of Wade A. Tisthammer. I prided myself on being able to find my name on the Internet via search engines, but I didn't think anyone would notice.

AWOL= Absent Without Official Leave

or simply A.way W.ithO.ut L.eave

It's an army term for a soldier that is nowhere to be found and has likely deserted (or just left).

I noticed it because your surname is a bit unusual.... where does it come from ?

My last name comes from Norway.

Why not? Their updates are instantanious, new additions are approved by users rating the queue.

Why wouldn't you submit it to both?

Ditto. I've submitted 7 programs - one about three days ago, the other 6 about a month and a half ago - and no news yet. This is starting to get on my nerves.

I realize that it may be upsetting to see that some programs appear to receive preferential treatment, while others are shoved to the back of the list, but in all fairness, ticalc.org receives hundreds of submissions weekly, and they have 3 archivers. I'd like to see any of you do as well after (3 years now??).

Anyway, although I still have pending programs for more than 2 weeks, and they only uploaded the TI-89 versions of the programs they got to Tuesday, even though they negelected the source code and the TI-92+ version, I still feel ticalc.org does a consistently good job of maintaining the best TI-basec calculator site ever.

If you are unhappy with the submissions process, then perhaps you shouldn't waste your time.

As a final note: ticalc gets lots of programs. 98% of them are crap. The kind they have to mess with because they get submitted. 2% of them are really excellent works by great programmers. As soon as those people make new ones, they get news articles and immediate updates. And why is that? Two reasons: 1) because those programs are better than normal programs, and they deserve preferential treatment (hey, I've never made one of those either, but I'd rather see a great game like Phoenix than another Nibbles clone, and yes I realize the irony in that statement considering my program list). 2) The reason ticalc.org is on top is because they have the best stuff all in one place and they do a consistent job of upkeep, unlike some other sites. For all you might say about the old ti-files, I always thought it was crap compared to ticalc.org. And where the hell are they now? They got lazy and bored. Last time I checked, Magnus was still here as EIC. That's commitment.

So, for all those who would trash ticalc.org, give me a break. You don't have the right. They've given you countless hours of their time to create this place, and it's all FREE. I cannot imagine what their bandwidth costs. I couldn't afford it.

I know it's upsetting to have a program you submitted take weeks or months (sometimes), but where else can you find the environment we have here? Well, having said that it's all free, I'll add this. This is the price you pay when you don't pay a price. Sad, but true. And as long as you aren't paying ticalc.org, then you'll need to join the elite ranks of the masters if you want to see your programs get updated every 10 minutes. I guarantee the person who writes a fully-fledged Zelda clone for the 89/92+ will receive such treatment...

Anyway, enough rambling for now.

It's not perfect, but I say "Long live ticalc.org!" :-)

Did I forget my <ramble></ramble> tags?...

John David Ratliff
jdratlif@cs.indiana.edu

Well said, John. You're my hero now :)

And your Nibbles clone was given a 10 by a reviewer, I think.

Only 3 archivers? Man, that's seriously understaffed. I've always thought that they had some sort of program that transfers the programs automatically instead of doing it by hand.

my last update was posted in 2 days. I wonder why your programs are taking so long. EVERY ONE DOWNLOAD me v1.8 !!!

would your program by any chance be an assembly game?

Yes, it was an asm(c) game.