cool...whens the 92+ one coming out?

WTF! The TI83 version is 3k larger than the TI83+ version?!

The 83 Plus Ion version was too large to run on the 83 Plus. That's why a MirageOS version was created, so space-saving optimizations could be made so that it would fit within both the total user RAM of the 83 Plus, and the code limit restriction of the 83 Plus.

This is especially momentous because the TI83 version doesn't seem to run. I quote from the docs: "You need an extra 1630 bytes of free memory to play the game." Yet after loading on Ion and the game, there is about 400 bytes free... This doesn't seem to work very well. The game displays the title screen and then just exits.

It would be particularly odd if the TI-83 version didn't run, seeing as the author has an 83 and not an 83 Plus :). Anyhow, my guess is that your problem is that you still have the Ion install files on your calculator. Once you install Ion you can delete programs ION and IONZ (which just insert the Ion code into the top of user mem, then create programs A and (theta)ION to run the loaded code). It's generally a good idea to delete these files after you've loaded Ion unless you plan on sending Ion to another's calculator. After doing that, you should have somewhere in the range of 1800 bytes free.

Cool, I'll be interested about the new version of phoenix... Anyone have any idea how substantial an upgrade is?

And the following is -1, Offtopic and somewhat irrelevant, but...

We need a new survey. =-) We haven't had one for 19 days and there seems to normally be a new one every week or such.

This update is actually to the z80 (TI-82/83/83+/85/86) version of Phoenix, not the 68000 (TI-89/92/92+) one.

How big of an update it is depends on what version you had before. However, none of the recent versions were mentioned in news items, so this news should be considered to include all of the updates for a long time. The current version is now essentially finished, except for the external level support, and probably a few additions to the internal levels, and other minor changes.

This is the first z80 version of Phoenix in which the versions for all z80 calculators are built from the same "original" source code, so porting each new release to the 83(+) will no longer be necessary, and thus you won't be seeing multiple different TI-83(+) versions being released a few days after the original, as has been the case so far.

omg, i haven't been an active part of anything calc related for about 6 months (same amount of time i've been spending with my gf), so i thought i'd just check on good old ticalc, man, you're a bunch of class A nerds, who gives a shit about calculator games, there are far more important matters in life (i don't mind any math/school related calc programs though). Hmm, it's sad that I used to actually check this site every day, at least twice, get a life people, it's a really cool thing to do.

Most of us do have lives. For me, this is what you call a "hobby." I have many. They include photography, programming, various studies of obscure scientific things whenever I get the urge, and spending time with my young neighbor (but that not really a hobby).

In addition to the above, I manage to spend quite a bit of time with my friends (aforementioned neighbor included), reading, and just idley browsing the Web.

I'm glad you feel you have more important things to do then check this page multiple times a day--but just because I check it at least daily doesn't mean I have a life. It means I have a hobby.

I think it's natural for people in school to study their calculators--especially people entering technical or scientific studies, because they use their calculators a lot and it is often handy.

So I think perhaps next time you could be a little less condescending when you state your opinion.

wow, I must admit, i have reacted in a rather uncivilized matter, and I also applaude you for an extremely mature response. I guess my "new" lifestyle has affected my mind slightly, and no I never considered myself a nerd, or even a calc geek, and I'm also sorry to dissapoint MathJMendl to say that I'm not some kind of "mainstream idiot who likes to copy everyone else to give my life a false meaning", quite the contrary is the case, I always tried not to follow any ones beliefs, other than my own, or to set my style according to the newest trend. Which is also the reason why I don't watch TV (too much commercialism and idiocracy at once trying to influence ones social behavior). So in closing i would like to say that I regret what i've said, even though i still believe that spending time during school playing calc games is very much a waste of time, which could be spent in a much more productive manner (such as actually trying to develop something on the calc).

Thank you, and I'm glad you took the time to read my opinion, too. I didn't think you were an idiot--I just thought you chose a bad way to voice your opinion.

That you thought about my opinion proves me right--you're not an idiot (whether you agreed with my opinion or not, although in this case you agreed with me). Just remember that a bit of civility goes a long way! As for being mature in my response, I have to--I'm a news editor--and I was trying to get a point across to you (and hopefully avoid other from flaming you).

You're right--being obsessed with calculators can be a Bad Thing. But not everyone here is obsessed. :)

Um...well, that was my public service announcement for last year. Now to work on 2001... Actually, I think my last year's 1 January 2000 post was that. Anyhow, happy new year! :)

Wow you're such a loser. I'd be frightened if someone as stupid as you was considered a nerd, because other people might generalize nerds as idiots.

Nerds are cool. They are people who don't care what other people think and do what they enjoy, often that things like being computers.

You are a mainstream idiot who copies everyone else to give your own life a false meaning.

And some people enjoy calculators, as an interest. I have no idea why someone like you who insults calculators would even bother coming to a site like this. Be gone.

Psssst...

And by the way, being a nerd and having a life have no relation whatsoever.

I am sorry, what was your username again?

Oh yeah, sorry Kinky Pimp.

What are the differences between Phoenix v.95 and v.90 other than size? I havn't seen any differences