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Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Posted by Steve on 20 May 2000, 03:20 GMT

Virtual TI just passed ZShell v4.0 in the top downloaded files list. Each file has close to 50,000 downloads - 10,000 more than the third most downloaded file. ZShell has held this record from the time ticalc.org was created. Without ZShell, ticalc.org and the TI calculator community would not exist. VTI has made great progress over the past year and has been trailing ZShell for quite some time. Congratulations to Rusty Wagner for this outstanding achievement.

Update (Nick): Here's some added information I was going to put in my news post, but Steve got the drop on me. Enjoy! :)

In the four years that ticalc.org has been around, ZShell has *always* been the top download. It was almost a fixation on our site. The original ZShell page was merged into ticalc.org at the beginning of the site, so it's no surprise that it would rank among the most popular files.

For those of you who don't know, ZShell was created by our very own Magnus Hagander, Dan Eble, and Rob Taylor. It was the very first assembly shell for the 85, and without it, you probably wouldn't ever see assembly-based programs for any calculator. Ever.

Virtual TI is made by Rusty Wagner. VTI will emulate any TI graphing calculator (except the 81, 80 and 73) on your computer. Over the past months and years, it has become an indespensible tool for programmers, developers, and the staff of this very site.

As of this posting, 17.0% of our users do not know what ZShell is.

Update (Nathan): Uh, Nick... you screw up our precise, scientific survey results when you put in an explanation of ZShell on the main page. ;) ZShell was a tremendous victory for calc hackers--at least VTI is another massively successful programming feat. Fitting that it is a platform on which ZShell can be kept alive as TI-85 sales dwindle...

 


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Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
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"Survery" results? Don't you have a program with spelling check to create an article in, and then copy and paste it?

     20 May 2000, 17:16 GMT


Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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Note that none of these spelling mistakes are made by me :)

(j/k, guys, I know I make them all the time too.)

All of these are fixed now. Sorry about all the problems we've had. I hope you guys still keep coming to the site. *g*

--BlueCalx

     20 May 2000, 18:09 GMT

Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Henry Pate  Account Info

Here are some big steps in the ti world (at least as it see it:


First there was ZShell, which started the ti calc frenzy.

Then there was the hack on the 82 and other calcs.

Then VTI came along and allowed us to emulate the calcs.

The next BIG step would be reverse engineering the TIOS code. (But since it is illegal, we wouldn't do that, would we...) Think about it, with the TIOS code, programmers could customize the OS, to be more user friendly, have more options (that is if the code was even legible, meaning, not spagetti code) Then instead of always going for games, people could go for their own customized OS. I just think that would be great.

     20 May 2000, 20:50 GMT

Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
David Hall  Account Info
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Nah, the next step is PsychoCorp. Click link above ;)

     20 May 2000, 22:51 GMT

Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
justsomeotherguy  Account Info

Is the TIOS located in the ROM? How exactly would you guys go about doing that? Or do you guys have no clue as to how it could be done? I'm just curious because that does sound like an awesome idea.

     21 May 2000, 01:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Reno  Account Info

read: ROM Dump

     21 May 2000, 01:35 GMT

Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
MathJMendl  Account Info
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>The next BIG step would be reverse engineering the TIOS code. (But since it is illegal, we wouldn't do that, would we...)

Sure we would want to! Maybe we should call up the DeCSS people and see how much they know about calculators. TI really should be nicer to their customers. Even HP supports asm and has (free) development program and such. They are really keeping us back for no good reason. I'm sick of crashes and they just shouldn't occur. Especially when they don't need to occur.....

     21 May 2000, 05:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
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Why wouldn't crashes occur with a different operating system? You still don't have any memory protection, and fatal errors can occur anytime.

     22 May 2000, 04:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
luke195rs  Account Info

crashes don't just occur for no good reason, when they do it's the programmer's fault not the OS's. As far as I'm consered, TI keeps a pretty open ear toward the wants of it's costomers. (except its subborness about a calc being a math tool not a gaming platform)

     22 May 2000, 06:34 GMT


Re: Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Kenneth Arnold Account Info

You're forgetting the important moment when TI built ASM support into the 83! This set a precedent for the calcs to come (86, 89, and 92+). Of course, the root motivation for this addition was ZShell.

But forget TIOS (at least for the 89 and 92+). Port Linux to the dang thing. (AIM/ICQ kcarnold or email kcarnold at yahoo if you're interested in this).

     21 May 2000, 23:14 GMT

Re: Virtual TI Surpasses ZShell For Most Downloaded File
Tommy Kromer  Account Info

Ok this is sort of off topic but the best place i could find to place this.
I have a VTI w/ROM versions 1.0 and 1.05 and am trying to add 2.03. However, my graph-link is in disrepair and the only way to do this would be with the download at ti.com. I can't seem to get the VTI to "take" the new ROM. SO, if anyone can help me post something or email me PLEASE.

     22 May 2000, 04:15 GMT
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