Really cool games are coming out, and did I read the info correctly, that this is BASIC!?

That is exactly right, meaning bad memory management and slow gameplay.

Do you have something negative to say about EVERYTHING????
You criticized kartingz too!!!!

I hate to point this out -- but your comment is negative as well. Perhaps if you have a problem you contect him in private? Just a suggestion...

yeah, your calc also self destruct if you dont double click the readme file before sending all the things to your calcs

lol. I saw that too.

your calc blew? /me hopes not

You should calm down a little bit with your criticism, Keven worked hard on this game!

please explain. How is the memory management bad? does it create memory leaks or crashes?

No leaks or crashes known by me.
It just needs memory. Lots of it. B)

Great game.

@Peter Fernandes: Flame somewhere else. For BASIC, this game is absofuckinglutely fantastic. Even puts many asm games to shame. End of story.

Yea.. that's the only downside to Kevin's games.. while they are awesome, if you want anything else on your calculator at the time, you're screwed.. you have to devote your entire RAM and a large chunk of your ROM to these games, and that turns me off.. I'm not taking anything away from the game, but it's just too big..

I know it's pretty much impossible to make anything worth-while in basic unless you want to use a whole chunk of memory.. one of my programs takes up 10K [I could probably optimize it now to make it smaller because I wrote it a loooong time ago, but that's beside the point..] and it's just a simple song-encoding/decoding program with some nifty graphics and a GUI.. that's pretty much it.. Basic just takes alot of memory to do pretty much anything..

thats why I've been thinking about making two version of metroid: this one, and a second one with Kalan_vod map compression routine. As 90% of the game data is map data (over 300 maps) if I used this it would be a dramatic decrease in file size, altough it would increase loading time drascically (around 5-6 more secs per map loading).

After that I dunno if I want to make anymore games tho for calcs, seeing lot of ppl hate them for their file size, and I never got any luck with assembly and I dont want to make small RPG that'll be beaten in 10 minutes so I guess Metroid II will be my last contribution to the TI community (programming wise). I'll still be around on my TI forums though (I dunno if I still have it linked in my name if not then I think its still avaliable in my profile :P)

oh yeah and I have been coding games for TI-83+ since middle 2001 anyway so I guess I prbly contributed enough :P

Kevin, I love your games and I think you do a wonderful job with them, but I must say one thing. It's just my personal opinion, and it doesn't make me admire your work ethic any less, but I never really liked the idea of ASM libs in BASIC. It always seems like something of a corruption to me, dunno why. Carry on with the wonderfulicity. :)

I like your work too!

thats another reason why I've chosen that metroid II will be my last game

Quitter

Have *you* written this many programs this large and this good?

STFU Ninja. Thank you Person Dude. And Kevin, why so soon? They're still excellent works of creativity regardless of how you make them. :)

Personally, I say use anything at your disposal to make the best game you can make! ;)

I have that... TITunes, right?
it is great, and i have it archived in Mirage, so it doesn't tax my memory!

i think he meant the fact on the 83+ the game take the entire archive and ram and have lot of sub routine

Have you even tried it? Even if it uses all the calc's memory, it's still amazing that it *can* be done in BASIC. There's nothing on my 83+ I wanted to keep anyways (except for Pearls) so I'll be clearing it out to install Metroid II.

The program is coded in BASIC, but with help of a lib (X-lib). It would probably not be able to achieve such speed otherwise.