These look awesome! I guess I'll have to go get mastermind now. I looked at all the games last night, but somehow I missed Mastermind.

I did notice that...the only one I downloaded was Minesweeper, though. I can also say that they are some of the few that actually work on the TI-89 Titanium (with AMS 3.00 and HW3, which goes without say), so that's a point in my favor.

I thought everything was supposed to work with Ti89Ti, but obviously it doesn't. I didn't pay much attention, though, because I just got an 89.

With HW3Patch, GhostBuster, ttstart-titanium and TitaniK/Iceberg (all available with the link above), most TI-89 programs should work on TI-89 Titanium.
If you find one that doesn't, please report the problem on that board (TICT message board), we will see what's wrong.

I had some problems wit the TitaniK and Iceberg, but the HW3 Patch works fine - I already had that installed on the calc.

It seems to me that TI should be trying to get around these problems. They put 2.7 megabytes of Flash ROM into the Titaniums, and even if you put all the Apps they currently have out for the Titanium on it, it wouldn't nearly fill up all that ROM. Wouldn't that mean that TI is trying to advocate programming your own files to use? And if so, why do they constantly make OS versions that must be patched? It just doesn't make sense to me. Of course, I could be wrong...

Hopefully, future OS versions will clear up some of the issues with program compatiblity.

I doubt that.

TI don't care about compatibility issues for assembly programs. It is not the first time an OS/HW version breaks everything, and it won't be the last.

That's true, but none of the other calculators had a problem with every other program listed in the archives.

Those programs were made for the TI-89.

All I have to say is WOW. TI really screwed us over on this update. that is quite a lot just to get a coupple programs to work.

-W-

This could have been worse.
- Patch *one time* your OS with HW3Patch
- Install Iceberg instead of PreOS
- Keep ttstart-titanium on your calc and always use it instead of the standard ttstart or the custom launchers
- Patch with GhostBuster the programs than are not (yet) ported
It isn't more annoying than using a V200 with "Voyage 200 Executables Patcher".

And with all these, will ID work? Please tell me yes.

-W-

It should work, but I don't know anyone who has tested this yet.
Anyway only HW3Patch will be necessary after I have updated it.

Yes! So long as I don't have to give that program up, I will be making the switch later this year.

-W-

I couldn't get Iceberg of TitaniK installed on my Titanium. Which files and/or libraries are required? When I ran TitaniK, the program executed and printed "Done" with no apparent changes to my calculator. Iceberg gave me a message about some variable being "wrong" (I can't exactly remember).

The HW3 patch does clear up several problems and allows a lot more of the nostub programs to run.

Sorry. That should be "Iceberg OR TitaniK".

Iceberg should display "Success!" in a dialog box, and you should be able to run kernel-dependent programs by typing their name in the home screen. I can't found which error message you are talking about.
TitaniK is a launcher that takes the program to run as a string parameter, but may fail to run more programs than Iceberg does.

Wow, that's strange. Suddenly Iceberg is working. Thanks!

I remember what it was now...I got an error message saying "Update auto-ints." I als receive this message upon running "iceberg()" again, so I mightve just run it twice accidentally.

On another note, the HW3 patch seems to cause quite a bit of address errors. Is this a direct result of freeing up the I/O space for use?

This rather comes from a buggy program, or from a program that has not been patched or has been badly patched by GhostBuster. This can also be due to programs using hacks not compatible with AMS 3.00.
Can you give more details on the programs making the calculator crash?

The programs I am referring to worked perfectly fine before the HW3 patch, Iceberg, or Ghostbuster were used. They included several games (falldown, tetris, etc.) and a couple of the more extensive assembly math programs. After the HW3 patch was installed, these started giving address errors. Ghostbuster worked on some, but not all.

However, about the hacks not being compatible...
Is this because of syntax errors. I know there are parentheses issues between the TI-83+ and the TI-83 with things like sin( showing up as only sin on another calc. I don't know everything about an 89, but most shouldnt most of the calls or functions remain the same, even with a new AMS version? It's not like it was completely redesigned from the ground up. Was it?

>The programs I am referring to worked perfectly fine before the HW3 patch, Iceberg, or Ghostbuster were used

Interesting. I really doubt the problem comes from HW3Patch. GhostBuster could have patched badly the programs. You can compare the original version and the patched version of the programs at issue. You can also uninstall Iceberg by reseting the calculator (2nd + ON + left + right) after having archived your important data, to see if it can be the source of the problem.

>Ghostbuster worked on some, but not all.

Not all the existing programs need to be patched. This does not always mean that GhostBuster fails to do its job.

>but most shouldnt most of the calls or functions remain the same, even with a new AMS version?

The differences between AMS 3.00 of Titanium calculators and the latest version of the one that exists for the standard TI-89 (AMS 2.09) are minor from an external point of view. The TI-Basic language and functions (used with the Program Editor Application of AMS) are compatible between standard TI-89, TI92 Plus, Voyage 200 and TI-89 Titanium, there are no compatibility issues.
I was talking about hacks used in assembly and C languages, to interact directly with AMS and its internal structure. The internal changes of AMS may interfer with some programs, but such programs that may fail to work on Titanium are in small numbers.

Available for download?

I don't see a link to it there.

You have to go to the thread "TitaniK and Iceberg - the TITANIum Kernels", then scroll down a bit. First it'll say something like "You can get Titanik here and the relevant libraries here" with the "here"s as a link. Further down, you can find links for Iceberg. The same goes for the HW3 patch and Ghostbuster.

I can find everything but HW3Patch.

Go to www.calcgames.org (see link) and scroll down the left-side box until you find the section with "Recent Files" Find the HW3 patch there; it's where i originally found it. Of course, soon it won't be a recent programs...so download it fast.

Thanks.