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bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
Posted by Nick on 13 October 1999, 23:05 GMT

Chris Dietz has begun a new page to be hosted under ticalc.org: the Basic and Assembly Programmers Group. It is another programming group with some interesting projects under development, most notably a Zelda clone. Best of luck to BAPG in all their developments!


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Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
Jean Vásquez  Account Info
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There are no comments on this article yet. Why don't you <B><A HREF= "/cgi-bin/news-subcom.cgi?NewsID=17332"> add one </A></B>?

     13 October 1999, 23:37 GMT

Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
mysteryegg  Account Info
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Will this page address TI's upcoming SDK or simply try to focus on the more creative form of assembly programming?

     13 October 1999, 23:45 GMT

Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
adamb  Account Info
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I'm glad to see another TI-83/83+ site emerging... seems like most TI sites are focused on the TI-89 now, which is unfortunate for those of us who don't have one.

     14 October 1999, 00:16 GMT

Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
beasty  Account Info
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Is there a compiler with manual for progging for Ion for Ti 83+!!!!! Thank you so much and good luck guys!

love ya!

     14 October 1999, 00:19 GMT


To compile for Ion (IBM Dos/Win):
Use the ASM.bat file included with ion.zip (Note -- you need TASM - see http://www.ticalc.org/pub/dos to d/l it).
asm (filename - no extension)

As for programming, best of luck to ya

     14 October 1999, 03:46 GMT

beasty  Account Info
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So, let me get this straight is this just like...say a compiler for Basic or Pascal.... Where do i learn this ASM language.... ExPLAIN!


     14 October 1999, 23:42 GMT

Re: Re: ION
Fishexe  Account Info
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Actually, ASM is the closest thing to machine language, using a processor's native instruction set and directly accessing memory locations. It's really complicated-ass stuff and hard to find many good resources. Then you need to write programs that are, like, 20 pages long just to multiply a few numbers or display something on the screen (perhaps a bit of an exag. here)
You can't use variables, at least not like in a high-level language, but you have to do things manually by loading registers and then copying between them and memory addresses.
Try downloading a whole bunch of source code and figuring things out. It's really the only way. Also if you want to do really cool stuph a good thing to do is to download the include files from TI's website and look at them in a text editor.
Looking at other peoples' work really is the most constructive way to learn ASM, and also I would recommend getting a library book on z80 assembly, they're all over, they aren't very specific but are helpful in telling you what things like "ld" and "cp" and "jp nz" mean and what registers actually are.
>So, let me get this straight is this just like...say a compiler for
>Basic or Pascal.... Where do i learn this ASM language.... ExPLAIN!

     15 October 1999, 06:03 GMT

Guestbook Violence
Jorge Tellez  Account Info

On the guestbook, many insult the site with very creative analogies. What I think is ironic is how they say the makers of the site have no lives, yet have enough time to think of and write these long insults. Grow up, make your own page if you are so insulted by their attempts to make it into the game. It isn't that hard to push [BACK].

     14 October 1999, 00:44 GMT

Re: Guestbook Violence
Ed Fry  Account Info
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It's actually kinda sad what people are saying about hosted sites these days. First the French site gets blasted because it's in french and now this.

     15 October 1999, 01:41 GMT

Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
Jonah Cohen  Account Info
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Can we say "graphic artist"?


     14 October 1999, 03:24 GMT

Re: Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
adamb  Account Info
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Well, I'll admit their site does need a little work in terms of graphics (ok, maybe a lot), but the fact that they've created a webpage is in itself I believe worthy of respect. Some great pages start out small, and others die out. I guess we'll find out about this one soon enough...

     14 October 1999, 04:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
Charles Yong  Account Info

I think the reason why many people are pissed off is because many are waiting for the chance to get a ticalc web url, and have great websites, but haven't gotten them yet, and now see this site up. Anyway, I'm not one of these people... heck I don't even own any sites, I've been designing for other groups I'm in so far (We all have our own domain names:P) but I mean, really, a lot of people are just itching for a ticalc web url and now they see this and get all nasty about it... I would too if I were in their shoes.

     14 October 1999, 07:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
adamb  Account Info
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Now that you mention it, I can certainly see why people would be upset over this. With calc.org filled up in terms of sites, and ticalc.org only accepting what seems to be a certain few, this site probably stirred up many resentful thoughts in many wanna-be ticalc.org sitemasters. Of course, if they could overcome their jealousy we wouldn't have this problem, but people are greedy.

     14 October 1999, 14:46 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
Zeromus Mog  Account Info
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I understand that situation... in a way I'm one of them... I'm not gonna go blast this site or let out streams of profanity on their guestbook over the matter, but when I went to the site I was pretty upset... the page that I submitted to them was almost exactly like that one except for some critical differences:
1) I knew how to use the background color tag
2) I knew how to spell
3) The site obviously (but not tackily with the stupid animated .gif's) stated that the site is under construction, and WILL be improved.
4) By then, Mogsoft's Secret Button was out with rave reviews. Unless I'm mistaken (and I often am) this group really hasn't produced anything yet...

I can understand why some people would be so bitter about having this place have a site over them... it's very frusturating. But please guys, don't go cuss these guys out.

President of Mogsoft, Inc.

P.S. If any of you saw a post from a Mogsoft employee that ragged on this site, please disregard it. He will be, ah, "dealt with". ^_^ (Come back here, Kyle! The wombat's not tired yet!) :)

     15 October 1999, 04:05 GMT

A note from bapg's site owner
chris dietz  Account Info
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I'll bet that the people who insulted our web site didn't even explore it, also we offer good services to the community like a save 40 pictures program and 5 original hardware designs like sound cards, external power ports, making the TI-83 plus go 15 times faster, 3 person link and a 6 person link! anyways if you have suggestions about a new web page design, then please E-Mail me with the suggestions at warfreak2@juno.com

     16 October 1999, 02:27 GMT

Re: A note from bapg's site owner
pitts Account Info
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I like the page. I think if your going to start a little programing group you should focus on making programs, not on your website. All the website has to do is get a message across, and this site does.

     16 October 1999, 03:34 GMT

Re: A note from bapg's site owner
Zeromus Mog  Account Info
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I said I was usually wrong... ^_^
I agree, more time should be spent on programming than a good web site... I tried to explain that to the person who denied my web page, but oh well. I can't talk much tho because we're spending some serious time making a good webpage for Mogsoft (that link above is nothing like what the next version of it will look like). But we also have someone (2 people, actually) in the group who do just web pages; it's what they like doing.

Anyway, good luck with you guys. Make a good ASM program soon so those lamers don't have anything to complain about! ^_^

President of Mogsoft, Inc.

     16 October 1999, 06:58 GMT

Re: Re: A note from bapg's site owner
(Web Page)

Yea that sounds good. I will let you in on a little secret, its not the *.ticalc.org name that does it. Just get your site around and known. Get some links out there and esp. put it on sites like ticalc.org and ti-files.org. Rusty Programming is hosted on www.acz.org instead of ticalc.org because we are a part of ACZ Inc(yes inc). We get tons of hits from link referers and tons of people come to the site just cuz they know about it, get known. The rest will work itself out, btw, just keep it updated :)

-Rusty Programming-

     18 October 1999, 14:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bapg.ticalc.org: Basic and Assembly Programmers Group
Kokiri89  Account Info
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HAHAHA! Well, yeah, the reason I 'ragged' on them is what you mentioned. Well, now we have the domain http://mogsoft.tigalaxy.com but as of this writing we were at http://members.aol.com/kkokiri89/ and trying to get a ticalc.org domain. It was very frustrating to me and I kinda got carried away =)
Sorry BAPG!

     9 April 2000, 18:51 GMT

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