Re: A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00

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Re: A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00


OK mine doesn't say that but the new ROM gave me more mem?

Wesley

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, h4X0r wrote:

> 
> On the about screen (from Home Screen, press F1, Then Alpha-A) if it says
> "TI-89 Hardware Version 2.00" you have a HW 2 calc.
> 
> --h4X0r
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wesley Moore" <s9906768@quoll.co.rmit.edu.au>
> To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
> 
> 
> >
> > Forgive me for re-asking a fairly common question. How do you identify
> > whether your TI-89 is hardware v1 or 2?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Wesley
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Bryan Rabeler wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The thing is, what Scott said is true.  Us HW1 users weren't cheated, at
> > > least not directly.  The problem is that TI implemented Flash ROM into
> their
> > > graphing calculators so that users could feel confident about buying a
> new
> > > calculator, because after the "bugs" were worked out, they could simply
> > > flash the ROM and everything would be fixed.  Then TI goes and fixes the
> > > only thing that flashing the ROM can't fix, the hardware.  Now there are
> > > essentially two versions of the TI-89 out there, and they aren't
> necessary
> > > compatible with one another.  And as time goes on, there will be many
> more
> > > HW2 calcs vs. HW1 calcs, and HW1 calcs will be going "obsolete".
> > >
> > > TI didn't lie, they were just very sneaky.  If they wanted to be really
> > > nice, they could offer a trade-in program.  But they won't do that, they
> > > have no reason to.  First, it would cost a lot of money, because they
> can't
> > > do anything with the HW1 calcs but throw them away.  Secondly, TI has no
> > > obligation do to this, and because of the fact that a majority of TI-89
> > > owners don't know the difference about HW1/HW2, the minority of us who
> do
> > > know the truth don't make a difference.  We are just a drop in the
> bucket.
> > >
> > > Bryan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Serial" <Serial@earthlink.net>
> > > To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:58 PM
> > > Subject: A89: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
> > >
> > >
> > > You sound like a defensive Ti Employee at a press conference. Or bill
> > > clinton perhaps.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Noveck <noveck@pluto.njcc.com>
> > > To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 1:38 PM
> > > Subject: A89: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
> > >
> > >
> > > |
> > > | Now, getting back on topic - let's see the list get a little
> productive. .
> > > .
> > > |
> > > | Opinions are going to differ on whether or not TI cheated us.  I
> accused
> > > | them of doing just that in one of my emails to Paul Fischer, and he
> had a
> > > | good point - in TI's opinion, none of us with HW 1.00 were cheated.
> > > |
> > > | Instead, TI gave HW 2.00 buyers a "free upgrade" of sorts -- were TI
> > > really
> > > | out to cheat us, new 89s would not sell for the same price with a more
> > > | expensive 12 MHz processor.  Paul compared it to car dealerships --
> all
> > > they
> > > | do is stick on a new number for the model year, and they can change
> the
> > > car
> > > | all they want.  And they don't tell you everything that has changed.
> > > |
> > > | The ONLY reason TI is getting flamed like this from us is because of
> one
> > > | poor marketting decision - whether a calc is HW1 or HW2 is not
> distinctly
> > > | obvious at first glace.  If "HW2" was written on the calc and noted in
> big
> > > | print on the box.  If they called it the 89+ or the 89-2, we would not
> > > | complain.  It's all psychological -- humans, as a whole, tend to look
> at
> > > how
> > > | they were cheated rather than how they were pompered.
> > > |
> > > | Regardless, the issue could go either way.  There's simply no point in
> > > | complaining -- what's done is done/  Realize that what you say will
> have
> > > no
> > > | impact on TI whatsoever - the problem is corporate marketting, which
> will
> > > | not change its ways for any reason other than greed.  If you're going
> to
> > > | complain, do it amongst yourselves so that those of us who understand
> its
> > > | futility don't have to look at it (yes, I get the digest version of
> the
> > > list
> > > | and have to scroll past it to read other messages - not just delete it
> =)
> > > |
> > > |     -Scott
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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