Re: A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00

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Re: A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00


On the about screen (from Home Screen, press F1, Then Alpha-A) if it says
"TI-89 Hardware Version 2.00" you have a HW 2 calc.

--h4X0r

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wesley Moore" <s9906768@quoll.co.rmit.edu.au>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00


>
> Forgive me for re-asking a fairly common question. How do you identify
> whether your TI-89 is hardware v1 or 2?
>
> TIA
>
> Wesley
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Bryan Rabeler wrote:
>
> >
> > The thing is, what Scott said is true.  Us HW1 users weren't cheated, at
> > least not directly.  The problem is that TI implemented Flash ROM into
their
> > graphing calculators so that users could feel confident about buying a
new
> > calculator, because after the "bugs" were worked out, they could simply
> > flash the ROM and everything would be fixed.  Then TI goes and fixes the
> > only thing that flashing the ROM can't fix, the hardware.  Now there are
> > essentially two versions of the TI-89 out there, and they aren't
necessary
> > compatible with one another.  And as time goes on, there will be many
more
> > HW2 calcs vs. HW1 calcs, and HW1 calcs will be going "obsolete".
> >
> > TI didn't lie, they were just very sneaky.  If they wanted to be really
> > nice, they could offer a trade-in program.  But they won't do that, they
> > have no reason to.  First, it would cost a lot of money, because they
can't
> > do anything with the HW1 calcs but throw them away.  Secondly, TI has no
> > obligation do to this, and because of the fact that a majority of TI-89
> > owners don't know the difference about HW1/HW2, the minority of us who
do
> > know the truth don't make a difference.  We are just a drop in the
bucket.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Serial" <Serial@earthlink.net>
> > To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:58 PM
> > Subject: A89: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
> >
> >
> > You sound like a defensive Ti Employee at a press conference. Or bill
> > clinton perhaps.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Noveck <noveck@pluto.njcc.com>
> > To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 1:38 PM
> > Subject: A89: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
> >
> >
> > |
> > | Now, getting back on topic - let's see the list get a little
productive. .
> > .
> > |
> > | Opinions are going to differ on whether or not TI cheated us.  I
accused
> > | them of doing just that in one of my emails to Paul Fischer, and he
had a
> > | good point - in TI's opinion, none of us with HW 1.00 were cheated.
> > |
> > | Instead, TI gave HW 2.00 buyers a "free upgrade" of sorts -- were TI
> > really
> > | out to cheat us, new 89s would not sell for the same price with a more
> > | expensive 12 MHz processor.  Paul compared it to car dealerships --
all
> > they
> > | do is stick on a new number for the model year, and they can change
the
> > car
> > | all they want.  And they don't tell you everything that has changed.
> > |
> > | The ONLY reason TI is getting flamed like this from us is because of
one
> > | poor marketting decision - whether a calc is HW1 or HW2 is not
distinctly
> > | obvious at first glace.  If "HW2" was written on the calc and noted in
big
> > | print on the box.  If they called it the 89+ or the 89-2, we would not
> > | complain.  It's all psychological -- humans, as a whole, tend to look
at
> > how
> > | they were cheated rather than how they were pompered.
> > |
> > | Regardless, the issue could go either way.  There's simply no point in
> > | complaining -- what's done is done/  Realize that what you say will
have
> > no
> > | impact on TI whatsoever - the problem is corporate marketting, which
will
> > | not change its ways for any reason other than greed.  If you're going
to
> > | complain, do it amongst yourselves so that those of us who understand
its
> > | futility don't have to look at it (yes, I get the digest version of
the
> > list
> > | and have to scroll past it to read other messages - not just delete it
=)
> > |
> > |     -Scott
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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