[A83] Re: Hello from Central Illinois
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[A83] Re: Hello from Central Illinois
David,
Thank-you for the information. My son has a birthday coming soon and likes the
83 so maybe another purchase may be in order. Whow! I noticed the 86 will not
take that EE-Pro software?
Maybe the 89 or the 92 is in order then.
Thanks again,
Wayne
David Phillips wrote:
> Welcome to the TI community!
>
> You bought the wrong calculator. Seriously. If you want to do engineering
> or scientific work, or just want to program cool stuff, then I suggest you
> immediately return it and purchase an 86. The 86 has important features
> like base conversions, unit conversions, calculus functions, real string
> support, real variable naming support, more power-user friendly menus, a
> better solver, polynomial solver, etc. On the programming side of things,
> the 86 has a larger, memory mapped screen that allows for easier programming
> and nicer effects (such as better scrolling and grayscale). It also has
> more RAM than any of the 83 calculators, and gives a whopping 24k of free,
> scratch RAM to running programs, letting you do some very cool things.
>
> For electronics stuff, you might rather have an 89 or a 92+. These have
> some cool apps available for them, like EE*Pro:
>
> http://epsstore.ti.com/webs/ProdInfo.asp?deptid=163&catid=516&sku=526
>
> There are also some free programs available for circuits and things. I've
> only took one electrical engineering course while I was in college, so I
> don't know exactly what you need, but EE*Pro looks like it could be very
> handy. The 89/92+ calcs are very nice. If you want something with symbolic
> manipulation (solve equations in terms of variables and not numbers, like
> doing derivatives and integrals for you), then definitely check them out. I
> bought an 89 when they first came out, so I haven't used the newer releases
> of the OS. I found the 89's menus to be a bit sluggish, and it was pretty
> apparent that the OS was designed for the 92's body and keyboard style (it
> has a full QWERTY keypad and a lot more keys). Since you aren't a student
> and thus probably don't care about it looking like the high powered math
> machine that it is, then the 92+ is likely the best choice for you.
>
> When doing simple math that doesn't involve a lot of algebra, or working
> some simple physics problems, or doing unit conversions, I prefer the 86,
> since it has a more "clean" feel, and it's quicker to use. But when doing
> complex equations or things involving variables, the 89 is really nice.
> Pretty print (displaying an equation as you'd write it by hand) saves you so
> many times, because you see if you made a mistake with regard to parenthesis
> or order of operations. They're both nice calcs, and when I was taking
> college classes, I kept both with me.
>
> Unfortunately, for whatever reason, TI has decided not to continue the 85/86
> line of calculators. The 86 just doesn't have the "cool" features like
> Flash ROM (which aren't really needed anyway).
>
> The 82/83 line came after the 85, and was created as a dumbed down version.
> They removed all the aforementioned features. Those drop down menus that
> cover the screen are very annoying after you've used the 86 (the kind at the
> bottom of the screen, like in Probability Simulation):
>
> http://epsstore.ti.com/webs/ProdInfo.asp?deptid=157&catid=514&sku=1340
>
> The 83 line is aimed at middle school and intermediate high school students.
>
> As you might have noticed, I feel pretty strongly about this subject. It's
> always annoyed me that TI dropped their best line of calcs for a dumbed down
> line, and everyone happily buys into it, many of them not knowing what they
> are missing.
>
> If you think the 83+ is cool, wait until you try the 86 or 89...
>
> Dear 83 users,
> I am a homebound handcapped person who is a ham radio operator as well. I just
> purchased the TI83+ this weekend and am amazed at all the things it will do.
> I have worn out two TI calculators prior to this purchase. I was wanting to
> know if anyone of this email group has used this model for
> electronic/electrical calculations? I also wanted to tell everyone hello on
> this group.
> Wayne
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