RE: A83: Calling all great programmers!!

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RE: A83: Calling all great programmers!!


I DO have AppGuru, but I found that ASMGuru is just a far better source for
information for hobby programmers with absolutely no (well, maybe a little)
ASM experience whatsoever, ASMGuru really guides you through every step at a
time whereas AppGuru does three steps at once (It is a bit confusing when
you're starting ASM Programming (Personal experience...).

Besides, not all starting programmers are immeadiately interrested in making
menu's and stuff, but more in the stuff you put in ASMGuru...


Just thought I should share it with you...

Greetings,
Peter Martijn

P.S.
Any idea when we can expect the full version of AppGuru?

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
[mailto:owner-assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org]Namens James Matthews
Verzonden: donderdag 21 december 2000 18:22
Aan: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
Onderwerp: Re: A83: Calling all great programmers!!



Everyone talks about the concept of ASMGuru but for the TI-83 Plus as if
that doesn't
exist...it does!! Ok, it's highly reduced and isn't a final release, but you
guys really
should take a look at AppGuru. Here, lemme get the link:

ftp://ftp.ti.com/pub/graph-ti/calc-apps/sdk/ti83p_appguru08.chm

Now...read :) Yeah, a lot of it is application development -- but it is a
helluva lot
easier to read AppGuru (applications) and change it to standard 83+ ASM than
to read
ASMGuru and do the same.

Later,

James



----- Original Message -----
From: Hyperbyte <central@hyperfield.com>
To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: A83: Calling all great programmers!!


>
> Agreed!
>
> However, from the mail sent back and forth (wasn't easy because so many
> insulting messages had to be filtered out :-(   ), I found out that he
uses
> an 83+...
>
> So simply asmguru with the TI83 includes don't work.
>
> But you can use ASMGuru without reading all other tutorials if you include
> the TI83Plus.inc file from mirageos instead of the tokens.inc and
> ti83asm.inc, use obj8x.exe or bin8x.exe (I put them somewhere on
TICalc.org
> (www.ticalc.org/pub/dos/asm or something like that), and remember to use
> "bcall([macro])" instead of "call [macro]".
>
> (Mirageos is somewhere on TICalc too or at www.detatcheds.org/mirageos
> (isn't that right Dan?)
>
>
> It worked for me to (re)learn TI83+ Assembly recently (I did a little bit
> regular TI83 2 years before, but forgot it already)
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Greets,
> Peter Martijn Kuipers
>
> P.S.
> You really shouldn't tell anyone you think you may be stupid (if anyone
was
> stupid they surely wouldn't be on this mailinglist.... or even be trying
> ASM)
>
> P.P.S.
> To everyone:
> we really mustn't pick on someone for accideltally saying something
stupid,
> remember we only see the words, not the facial expressions or intonations,
> and we are all human ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
> [mailto:owner-assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org]Namens Henk Poley
> Verzonden: woensdag 20 december 2000 16:22
> Aan: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
> Onderwerp: Re: A83: Calling all great programmers!!
>
>
>
> Okay everybody. He is some very desperite man, he isn't using AOL so he
> has to have some sort of (Extra Terrestial ?) intelligence...
>
> So far the cinistic part...
> "-Direct G-" what have you found already, that could help you yourself?
> I'm pointing on things like:
>
> 1. Downloading "AsmGuru" by James Mathew
> 2. Downloading "Tasm", 'our' assembler
> 3. Downloading the Ti-83 'include-files'
>
> Instead of the last two, you could also download:
> "AsmStudio8x", but I recomend this only if you have an internet-connection
> faster than 33k6... (some 16 Meg file you know).
>
> First read the "AsmGuru" and than we will talk again. At least read (and
> understand) the first 10/15 tuturials...
>
> Henk Poley
>
>
> PS: Also looking at otherones source-code could help alot, AsmGuru only
> gave me the theoretical knowledge to program. But by attempting to
> 'improve' other programs I've learned alot.
>
> And hmm, another thing, I really don't know much about Z80-assembly, but
> you won't see it in my e-mails. Telling everybody that you're a "tiny
> little (green) man, who asks: 'Please, please, help me', because I'm is
> so-o-o-o-ooo helpless" isn't going to work (at least I think it won't).
>
> ----------
> > Hold up,
> >   Are you calling me incompitent.  Just to let you know I've been
> > programing in TI-BASIC for two years now and I'm pretty darn good.
Maybe
> > my problem is unclear, I need help with the logic behind some of this
> > stuff not what commands to use once I have the logic.  Your telling me
> > there's info at ticalc.org well I'll check it out. Thanks.
> >
> > -Direct G-
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Richard Harper Maddox wrote:
> >
> > > there is plenty of information available.  everyone else seems to find
> > > this information.  just look on ticalc.org for it.  i assume that you
> are
> > > looking for help in getting started with 83+ programming?  if so then
> you
> > > should check out the ION guru.  It would be in your best interest to
> also
> > > get the 83 asm guru, a help file that includes many tutorials to help
> you
> > > learn asm.  and please dont whine about nobody wanting to help you.
> take
> > > some pride in yourself and use existing information to start you in
> > > programming.
> > >
> > > -harper
>
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