A82: Re: Hays Games
[Prev][Next][Index][Thread]
A82: Re: Hays Games
I would just like to make a few comments on this. Here is section on text
that appears on the Hays Games Home Page:
>> An ever charming message from the ever charming Ticalc.org staff:
Yesterday, in anattempt to upload Tetris Gold onto the Ticalc.org server, >>
their "Charming" staff went Munson on us with this reply letter to
choad_22@hotmail.com, just look at it:
>>
>> Please adjust your readme file. We will not allow derogatory comments of
others to appear in our readme files, nor programmers who claim >> that
their game is "better" than someone else's, specifically.
Now it appears that ticalc.org caught this program and didn't approve it,
only because it contained derogatory words. If no such words were in the
readme, then it might have been added. ticalc.org should be much more
careful... Since I have tested every program in the archives, I know what
each program is like and would instantly know if someone uploads a cheap
copy of one. However, I doubt the current archivers are that up-to-speed on
all 7200+ programs.
I remember when I was at ticalc.org and I added a few of these games. Then
after a while, they got suspicious and I went back and checked them ALL
over. I compared their source code to other similar games in the same
directories, and what did I find? They were copies. So I deleted them. I
suspect that is why Hays Games is a little ticked at me. They have posted
"interviews" in the past on their website that have been VERY derogatory.
However, as I look at the interview of me posted, as of 10:45 PM EDT, it
looks fairly accurate... I am surprised.
But it does look like they are out to cause disorder in the TI community.
And as you can see in their peice-o-crap e-mail response to you Sam, they
try using unrelated stuff to justify their actions. But I wouldn't worry
too much about them, they aren't "powerful" or anything. However, they did
get Bill Nagel pretty pissed at them, but I don't know if that's why he
"left" TI calc. programming.
By the way, look at this e-mail I got today from them:
>> So, you got Munsoned out by ticalc.org, eah? Why not get back at
>> them. Join Hays Games Co. You hate ticalc.org, we hate ticalc.org,
>> it's all good.
I thought that was pretty funny...
--
Bryan Rabeler <brabeler@isd.ingham.k12.mi.us>
Former Maintainer of The Fargo Archive
Former Maintainer of the ticalc.org File Archives
Former ticalc.org Staff Member
Future Ruler of the TI World :P
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Heald <evil_sam@hotmail.com>
To: <assembly-82@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:16 PM
Subject: A82: Hays Games
>
> ...post leaves topic...now
>
> This probably more a topic for A83, but since I'm no longer
> subscribed to that list(and nothing is going on this one...)
>
> What's the deal with Hays Games? They seem to feel it is their
> right to steal other people's programs as their own (Today example:
> Tetris Gold). Not only are the programs nearly identical but certain
> bugs and mysterious size increases have also been added.
>
> I went to their web page
> (www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hub/4273/index.html)
>
> I emailed them inquiring about their thefts and they replied:
>
> >
> >Now Sam, must you be so harsh? What Hays Games Co. is trying to do
> >is benefit the TiCommunity by releasing many games, and sometimes we
> >have to go the extra mile to do it. Besides, these are all little 1-
> >5k Basic, Free, Calculator programs. Let's talk about copying for a
> >bit. You have copied all your life, you wouldn't even know english
> >with out copying your parents. At Hays, we belive in quantity over
> >quality. Besides, you are a NOBODY in the TiCommunity. Hays Games
> >Co. has become powerful over the past year, we even got rid of Bill
> >Nagel from the Ti83 front, so watch out who your dealing with.
> >
> >Mike Smith
> >Hays Games Co.
> >
>
> I'm not even going to bother commenting on the above.
>
> It appears in their PUDs that they have every desire to continue
> this practice. I also couldn't help, but notice their "interview" with
> Bryan, in which he implies that they have been doing this for some
> time. If he was still running the archives, no way sh*t like Tetris
> Gold would get posted (also the source code archive wouldn't be
> horribly out of date, but...). Kirk is doing a good job on the whole
> though with program updating seemingly just as prompt as before.
>
>
> ...Post gets back on topic....now
>
>
> So how about some people start making some levels for PJ? I threw
> those MakeSome levels together in less than an hour, so it's really
> not that tough. As soons as I get a little more time, I'll convert
> those 83/85 levels over.
> Sam
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
References: