Re: A82: CrASH Hacked!!!!
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Re: A82: CrASH Hacked!!!!
Don't twist our words Thomas. No one is against
programming. Like everyone else said, the reason you got so
much shit was not because you took apart the code. It was
because 1) You told the whole list what you did, and 2) you
said you were going to release it (without any consent from
the authors whatsoever). If you had just gone and made your
own shell, no one would have been the wiser, but nooooo,
you had to go and tell everyone your grand accomplishment.
I think that's what's bugging everyone the most. Sorry to
be such a preacher, but that's what I think.
On Sat, 06 Jun 1998 04:19:17 -0400 "Thomas J. Hruska" <thruska@tir.com>
writes:
>
>At 05:37 PM 6/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Grant Stockly wrote:
>>
>>> Someone needs to make a shell with proper vat routines.
>
>Agreed. Would you like the source code :P
>
>Speaking along those lines, I've already had two requests for the
>source
>code. Since everyone is SUPER-DUPER TICKED OFF AT ME, I will not be
>releasing it...just to appease most of your appetites. After this run
>in
>with you guys and your apparently strong feelings against people
>exploring
>the realm of programming, I therefore won't explore the realm of
>shells. I
>had no idea that you guys would get so ticked off. Won't even mention
>the
>word shell again. NOW ARE YOU HAPPY??!?!?!?!?!?!
>
>>I really think the author(s) or Ash & CrASH should get together and
>make
>>one standard shell for the TI-82. They are so similar - Ash 3.1 runs
>>CrASH programs and CrASH 1.3 runs Ash 3.0 programs. That is crazy.
>
>Better yet, we should create a list of standard features that we think
>is
>necessary in a shell and then create that standard shell. As to my
>input
>into this list, I think the shell needs to be able to be customized by
>the
>user the first time it is run (such as if the user wants the highlight
>bar
>to scroll smoothly, or if they want a blank screen on exit, or if they
>want
>the name of the program instead of the title to appear, or even a
>split
>window). This way, everyone will be happy with the standard shell.
>Sure
>it might be 500 bytes larger than the current shell, but no one would
>have
>an excuse to make another shell because they don't like the layout.
>
>I personally won't be participating in making this new shell because
>you
>guys don't want me to explore the realm of shell making.
>
>I'm sorry I even brought this topic up. I realize now that I wasted 7
>hours of my life and nobody is happy with me because of it. Maybe
>that's
>because I said that I was going to make a shell from the source code,
>or
>maybe something else. Anyway, whatever it is, I had no idea that you
>would
>all suddenly decide that programming was bad/wrong. Sure ripping
>apart
>CrASH wasn't one of the brighter things I've done recently, but it
>didn't
>require a zillion people telling me to not program my own shell. I
>never
>even said I would distribute the shell I made, did I? You were
>flaming me
>for experimentation in the programming realm. Einstein experimented,
>was
>made fun of/flamed, and is an international hero. So, I guess I'm
>saying,
>(I'm not an Einstein yet) you flamed me for no reason. I'm S-O-R-R-Y.
>What more can I say?
>
>
> Thomas J. Hruska -- thruska@tir.com
>Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers"
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>
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