i think that you are all missing the point. in the first message, the guy said that he would prefer his idea over the one that uses the Philips chips. wait a second, there is no network that uses any sort of hardware controller. all of it is software (mbus). silly. anyways, his idea was too elaborate. amps, humph FUZZ I Don't See Why Not ------------------- listen.to/yankovic ICQ: 3512251