Re: Re(2): Re(2): TI-H: MP3s

To: ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org
Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): TI-H: MP3s
From: gussie@alaska.net (Grant Stockly)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:58:21 -0700
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Reply-To: ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org

yep.  And that if you take the dac from a good cd player it will sound as
good as you can get it.

>    I think I understand now. Grant was saying that some sound cards have
>worse converters (DACs) than others? But that would affect any sound output,
>not just mp3s. CD audio would also sound different.
>
>-Gabe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: morph- <morph@jmss.com>
>To: ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org <ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org>
>Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 4:42 PM
>Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): TI-H: MP3s
>
>
>>
>>Cept for one teency weency little thing. Sound cards have to convert those
>>0's and 1's to sound. Unfortunately, some of them don't do a good job of
>>it, and sound bad.
>>
>>On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Gabe wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     You lost me. No offense, but I wonder if you know what you're talking
>>> about. All a CD is is a bunch of 1's and 0's which sound exactly the same
>if
>>> played via the cd-rom drive or directly off your hd in wav form. Mp3's
>are
>>> merely compressed versions of these wavs which are then decompressed in
>real
>>> time (or buffered depending on your decoder settings) and played via your
>>> wav stream on your sound card. I'm not too knowledgable about sound
>cards,
>>> but I know this is true, and mp3s should sound the same on any sound card
>>> that can play 16-bit+ wav's.
>>>
>>> -Gabe
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Stockly <gussie@alaska.net>
>>> To: ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org <ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): TI-H: MP3s
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >If you want good sound, what ever sound card you have, you need to get
>the
>>> >Intermetal stero DAC which is made to interface to DVD, CD, amd MPEG
>>> >bitstreams.  The DAC on your sound card is made to interface to a
>computer.
>>> >They use different bitstreams, and sound different.
>>> >
>>> >>    What the hell are you babbling about? Don't try to make yourself
>look
>>> >>like an 'eleet' audiophile. mp3's sound practically cd quality at
>>> 128k/44.1
>>> >>if they are encoded correctly.
>>> >>
>>> >>-Gabe
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: Grant Stockly <gussie@alaska.net>
>>> >>To: ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org <ti-hardware@lists.ticalc.org>
>>> >>Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 5:47 PM
>>> >>Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): TI-H: MP3s
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>and most of all, you can hardly reliaze any decrease in quality!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>I can hear it on my speakers, and on my cousins Marantz and Snell
>>> >>>>equipment it is obvious (still sounds pretty good, but not nearly as
>>> >>>>nice as the CD).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Tell them to either get a new sound card or something like that.  MP3s
>>> >>>sound horrible unless you buy a specialized DAC card.  NOT a Sound
>>> blaster
>>> >>>or something liek that...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Actually, 150 CDs would only take 8,125MB.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>I'm all for more compact storage, my entire CD collection (~150)
>>> >>>>would fit into just about 10GB if MP3 encoded.  Drop a bunch of the
>>> >>>>songs I don't like and I could fit it all onto one 9GB drive.
>>> >>>>If I had an extra monitor and sound card, I'd consider setting up my
>>> >>>>extra computer to replace my CD player.  But I don't, so I don't
>>> >>>>bother collecting MP3's. (I do have an 800mb graphics library
>tho...:)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>DK
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
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