what the hell? you mentioned tomb raider as a parry to my comment about scaling walls. dude, thats computer freakin SOFTware. computer freakin SOFTware can travel through freakin time. i was talking on more of the HARDware/robtics side of the argument FUZZ David Norelid Posse in effect, yo ------------------- listen.to/yankovic ICQ: 3512251