Re: TI-H: TI92 and modem


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Re: TI-H: TI92 and modem




>>Why copy Windoze stuff? Go with BSD sockets or something. But that's
>>details...
>
>I'd rather not copy Windows stuff, but since Windows is the accepted
>standard (as disgusting as that is), it'd havae to be able to work with the
>same protocols.

Ummm...  No.  Windows uses standards made by other people...  They just
take credit for it.  None of the network protocalls except for microsoft
network were designed for windows.  They were designed when a window was
something you looked out of (which is where it should have stayed...)  :)

>>no new server system needed. Just better web designers. I
>>always make sure my pages are Lynx-friendly. =)

WinSock just makes a socket connection to the internet throug PPP, SLIP...
There is nothing we need to copy out of winsock...  Winsock does nothing to
internet...

>"better web designers"  Do you plan on going around the webt and saying
>"Excuse me sir, I'd like you to modify your site so I can view it on my
>calculator.  Thank you."  I don't think that's going to get very far.  Like
>I said with the winsock thing, I'd love it if we could do it ourselves, but
>the world has accepted standards, and "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em"
>Sorry, but that's the way it's gotta be.
>
>>$3500 to get a color browser... ;)
>
>It'd be $3500 for one person to get the development kit, and he would use it
>to create the individual stand-alones, and sell them at a bit higher cost
>than parts, in order to get his money back.  Everybody wouldn't have to pay
>$3500, just pitch in a little bit.  And it doesn't have to be color, either.
>Another option is a 320x200 monochrome passive LCD.  Though it's not 640x480
>like the AMEL's, it's still better than even the 240x128 offered by the 92.
>
>>I think the real problem behind the webbrowser bit is fitting in the internal
>>memory, along with a TCP stack and shell. Especially thrwoing in email, ftp,
>>etc. I suppose the 92+ and 89 might be more viable platforms for it, though.

You're going to have to use a shell account...  All we have to do is
impliment PPP, TCPIP, and a telenet driver...  Then you telnet to
sled.alaska.edu (or some other freenet) and get free shell access...

>That's why I offered the option of an external module using the calc's
>interface, but with an external processor to do the actual browsing and
>such.  Imagine a 92 totally devoted to internet access.  Not even any
>calculator programming on it.  If someone could get ahold of a 68k
>programmer and a couple hundred chips, we'd be set for memory.
>Unfortunately, if you want to buy them, Motorola refers you to another
>company, which sells the development kits for $600 each, and the chips for
>about $10 each, assuming you buy 10,000 of them, of course.  :(
>
>>That, and the lack of more than one or two people who are both interested in
>>it (enough to program it) and mind the hassle of doing it all from a UNIX
>>shell with a terminal. We've had discussions like this before on one of these
>>lists...

My friend were half way finished with porting a version of unix to the rom,
but gave up before we made a prototype...  it was boreing...

>I agree with you there.  So many people are willing to use it, but not to
>make it.  I know I wouldn't be able to make it, but I'm willing to give my
>input, and learn how to program it, so that I can chip in.
>
>-Gul