Look folks, I *did* short out C9 before, and my calc froze. _Then_ the list said "just take it out." Has anybody who says to short out C9 actually *done it* on their calc? --Jon, N9RUJ jnieho38@calvin.edu www.calvin.edu/~jnieho38 "Outside of a dog a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read!" --Marx (Groucho, not Karl)