Re: *NEW* ticalc.org proposal...

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Re: *NEW* ticalc.org proposal...

At 10:15 AM 3/13/1999 -0500, you wrote:

This completely amazes me that people don't care about what happens
with ticalc, but people raise a stink when I post a comment about people
discussing Roman Numerals in a TI Calc list...

I for one have an interest in the opinions of whats going on at ticalc since
it affects the interests of those who own TI calculators.

I care...


>Guys, must we really discuss this? Who really cares? Besides, this is a
>calculator list, not commercial politics (and don`t get me started because I
>can get every one of you there).
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan Rabeler <brabeler@ISD.INGHAM.K12.MI.US>
>To: CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM <CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM>
>Date: 12 March 1999 18:06
>Subject: Re: *NEW* ticalc.org proposal...
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>>>After reading the whole selection of articles revolving around getting
>>>Bryan Rabeler fired, I have come up with a method of "government" for
>>>ticalc.org.  Failure to follow the following guidelines means impending
>>>doom for ticalc.org.
>>
>>Sounds good to me...
>>
>>>The first thing that needs to happen is that the four coordinators need to
>>>step off their high horses and pay attention for a couple minutes of their
>>>"valuable" time (you can return to your high horses shortly).
>>
>>Do the coordinators read all the mailing lists, everyday?  Probably not.
>>
>>>The United States government is collapsing.  Why?  It is due to the fact
>>>that very few new ideas are coming in.  Bryan kindly put it this way, the
>>>life-long politicians, who make major decisions, are out of touch with the
>>>"real world."
>>
>>Exactly...
>>
>>>Ticalc.org = United States government.  Do I need to tell people that the
>>>coordinator ideas are going to get stale because they are out of touch
>with
>>>the real world?  After reading responses to Bryan's e-mails to the lists,
>>>they have nice words but, to be blunt, they are full of emptiness.  They
>>>can't seem to prove how Kirk or anyone else can fill the position that
>>>Bryan held.  The coordinators haven't touched a calculator in ages!
>>
>>The last sentence is extremely, extremely true.. with the exception of
>>probably Andy Selle.
>>
>>>1)  Get rid of the coordinator mailing list.  No secrets must be between
>>>coordinators and the rest of the ticalc.org.  The COMMUNIST TRIAD =
>>>TICALC.ORG'S 4 COORDINATORS!  When Russia was still communist, there was a
>>>Triad that had total authority and power.  Over and over, dictatorships
>>>have proven faulty, yet ticalc.org has turned into one.  However, just
>like
>>>the communist Triad (which met in secret late at night), the coordinators
>>>have decided that it is best to follow in the Triad's footsteps with a
>>>separate, secret mailing list.  REMEMBER!  THOSE WHO DO NOT STUDY HISTORY
>>>ARE ***DOOMED*** TO REPEAT IT!!!!!!!!
>>
>>I never said there was a coordinator mailing list, but there most likely is
>>one.  If there isn't, the coordinators do talk with eachother often and
>>probably even hold regular meetings.  I do agree with you on the point
>about
>>secrets.
>>
>>>they work hard).  If you vote, the same old staff members will end up with
>>>the position of coordinator.  NO NEW IDEAS = DEAD ticalc.org.  To keep
>>
>>
>>Exactly!  It almost seems like the system was invented to keep the same 4
>>coordinators forever.
>>
>>>1)  Keep their section WELL maintained.  (1 review a week is unacceptable,
>>>1 review a day is tolerable, 1 review every 5 hours is well maintained).
>>
>>I would say 1 review a day is pretty good, 2 a day would be outstanding.
>>
>>>2)  Have a positive, helping attitude.  (Must be willing to answer
>people's
>>>questions within 24 hours of e-mail, IRC, etc.).
>>>3)  Have a thourough understanding of the calculators they own...including
>>>ASM & BASIC programming.
>>>4)  Must be without a violation or offense for at least 2 months (arguing
>>>on mailing lists isn't a violation but erasing TI-Files is...in other
>>>words, hurting the reputation of the entire ticalc.org staff is
>>>unacceptable).  A person who is on ticalc.org staff cannot be fired by no
>>>one except themselves.
>>
>>Well, I think there should be a way to fire someone if they have done
>>so-called "high crimes", but it shouldn't be the 4 coordinators meeing in
>>secret to decide it.
>>
>>>5)  Must have been part of the ticalc.org staff for 6 months and have
>>>worked on a major calculator (BASIC/ASM) project 2 months prior to
>becoming
>>>coordinator.
>>>6)  Must be active on the ticalc.org mailing lists.  (Coincides with #2).
>>>7)  Must be capable of taking on the extra burden of being a coordinator.
>>>(Coincides with #1).
>>>
>>>On top of all this, a coordinator's term should be dropped to 3 months
>>>instead of 6.  This allows for more people to be coordinator in a year and
>>>less chance that a coordinator will become a dictator.  A person on the
>>>staff can only serve once as coordinator until everyone else, who is
>>>eligible, has served (somewhat similar to U.N. security council procedure
>>>for picking the next country to serve on the council).  These are strict
>>>requirements, but they have been carefully picked to keep ticalc.org's
>(and
>>>even TI-Files' and Dimenstion-TI's) staff on their toes.
>>
>>That sounds good also.
>>
>>>As I said, failure to follow these recommended changes in staff will
>result
>>>in the failure of ticalc.org.  Ticalc.org is currently headed, according
>to
>>>history, down the tubes.  Secret mailing lists, a 4 coordinator
>>>communist-like "Triad," and failure to create new ideas will be the
>>>downfall of ticalc.org.  HISTORY HAS PROVEN THE NEW TICALC.ORG WILL FAIL!
>>>Okay, now that I've said what I wanted to, you can return to your high
>>horses.
>>
>>Well that's what I predicted when they brought this proposal to the staff
>>list for the first time.  But no one believed me, however maybe in a couple
>>months, they will. :)
>>
>>Bryan
>>
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