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Still waiting for Rsponse: Re: TI-86 problems



Brigette,

1) Look at what I typed again, it is taking the exponent of a number and
dividing/multiplying it by the next number this is not the way it should
be done and it is not the way the book says it should be done
It evaluates            3*10^-6/2.3*10^-4,
actual keys pressed     3[2nd][LOG]-6/2.3[2nd][LOG]-4,
actually evaluated as   3*(10^-6/2.3)*10^-4
Either this or the book needs to be corrected, not that I dont like
typing in extra keys but....

2) I am attaching Chemfull as one of the programs that run slower

3) May or may not be fixed? It seems like it should be an easy fix.

4) I am sure the CSR should be capable of relaying the message to the
techs

Thank you
Darryl


>
> Darryl,
>
> Thank you for your recent correspondence. I will answer your concerns in
> the order you listed them and reference them using the numbers that you
> used.
>
> 1) This problem is due to a change in the operating system of the TI-86 as
> compared to the TI-85.  The TI-85 gave implied multiplication a higher
> order of precedence than regular multiplication.  At the request of
> educators, this was changed for the TI-86.  The following is an example of
> the sort of thing that could cause problems between the two calculators:
>
> Example   TI-85 Evaluation         TI-86 Evaluation
> 1/2*A =   (1/2)*A             (1/2)*A
>
> 1/2A =    1/(2*A)             (1/2)*A
>

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Brigette,

1) Look at what I typed again, it is taking the exponent of a number and
dividing/multiplying it by the next number this is not the way it should
be done and it is not the way the book says it should be done
It evaluates            3*10^-6/2.3*10^-4,
actual keys pressed     3[2nd][LOG]-6/2.3[2nd][LOG]-4,
actually evaluated as   3*(10^-6/2.3)*10^-4
Either this or the book needs to be corrected, not that I dont like
typing in extra keys but....

2) I am attaching Chemfull as one of the programs that run slower

3) May or may not be fixed? It seems like it should be an easy fix.

4) I am sure the CSR should be capable of relaying the message to the
techs

Thank you
Darryl


>
> Darryl,
>
> Thank you for your recent correspondence. I will answer your concerns in
> the order you listed them and reference them using the numbers that you
> used.
>
> 1) This problem is due to a change in the operating system of the TI-86 as
> compared to the TI-85.  The TI-85 gave implied multiplication a higher
> order of precedence than regular multiplication.  At the request of
> educators, this was changed for the TI-86.  The following is an example of
> the sort of thing that could cause problems between the two calculators:
>
> Example   TI-85 Evaluation         TI-86 Evaluation
> 1/2*A =   (1/2)*A             (1/2)*A
>
> 1/2A =    1/(2*A)             (1/2)*A
>
> I recommend that you clarify any ambiguous implied multiplication instances
> by using parentheses.  As always the calculator will evaluate the
> instructions inside the parentheses first and then evaluate the other
> instructions.
>
>
> 2) I need a copy of the programs which you have found to run slower on the
> TI-86 than on the TI-85 to determine why you are experiencing this.  You
> can e-mail them to me as message attachments, and I will be happy to
> investigate this for you.
>
> 3) We have logged the bug you found and our designers are taking it into
> consideration.  Because it is not a dangerous bug and does not cause any
> real errors or memory loss, it may or may not be fixed in the future.
> However, we do thank you for reporting this problem so that we are aware
> that it exists.  If you find any other bugs or inconsistencies, please let
> me know so that we can look into them.
>
> Finally, I wanted to address the response you got from the service rep on
> the 800 line.  This line is available for basic help and problem reports,
> but many of the individuals do not have the technical skills to
> troubleshoot complex problems.  For this reason, we have a separate
> technical support line (which may be reached at the phone number in my
> closer) and this e-mail support service.  The person you spoke with may not
> have felt comfortable enough with the TI-86 to answer your questions which
> were a bit technical in nature; rather than give you incomplete or
> incorrect information, he or she referred you to us so that we could answer
> the questions completely and accurately.
>
> If there is anything else I can do for you, please feel free to contact me
> again.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Brigette Anderson
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> TI Consumer Relations         Internet:banderson@ti.com
> Texas Instruments                Phone:(972)917-8324
> PO Box 650311  M/S 3962          Fax:(972)917-0747
> 7839 Churchill Way
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>
> ========================= ORIGINAL MESSAGE ==========================
>
> [ ddodd @ inav.net on 7/4/97 12:35:39 PM ]
>
> I found a problem with the TI-86, unfortunatly while I was tring to take
> a Cemistry II test, on how it evaluates scientific notation.1)
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