[A89] Re: Newbie alert!

To: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org
Subject: [A89] Re: Newbie alert!
From: Lord Drantin <drantin@cablelynx.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:53:44 -0500
In-Reply-To: <200308222046.50354.nickptar@mindspring.com>
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Not being an ASM or C programmer, I can't help you with number 1, however, 
through several years of watching the 68k community (at least ticalc, and for 
a small part ti-fr while it was around), I believe I can help with number 2 
The original reason for programming for kernels is gone, although they can 
still (under certain circumstances) benefit both the programmer (by relying 
on the kernel for certain functions to ease the programming process) and the 
end user (by (possibly) requiring less space when using many programs that 
use the same functions in the libraries) nostub seems to be better as far as 
understanding the calculator and possible getting slightly better performance 
from the calculator (if your self-coded/copied algorithms are better than 
those provided in the kernels or libraries) and for the user by not having to 
hunt for said libraries/kernels... (a lesser version of dll-hell, there are 
only a few places people can go to look for the libraries in the first place, 
although then you may end up with conflicting versions of them.... ahh 
well... it's plain dll-hell...) (hm... a small thing I happen to know about 
the AMS versions...) Kernel programs can sometimes be fixed for different AMS 
versions by simply updating the kernel and/or libraries(I have no figures nor 
knowledge of when this has happened, AFAIK it's theoretical), Nostub programs 
on the other hand will require either a launcher to be replaced, or every 
program will need to be recompiled...If you really want to use a Kernel use 
PreOs 0.67, it is currently the most up to date kernel (compatible with 
"doorsos" programs as well...) Somone who has actually used both types of 
programming could respond better to this ...Greg Dietsche, maybe?  (there is 
also a discussion on this somewhere in the tict forums... on the off-topic 
discussions section IIRC..

Conclusion : If you use modern kernel/libraries, no-one with half a brain will 
have problems running them. If you use nostub, people with under a quarter of 
a brain...(what do you mean var-link? huh? parenthasewhatsits?)

On Friday 22 August 2003 07:46 pm, you wrote:
> Being a newbie, I have some obligatory questions:
> 1. What is the difference, assembly-programmer-wise, between different AMS
> versions?
> 2. What are the pros and cons of Nostub vs. Kernel programs?

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[A89] Newbie alert!

From: Nick Tarleton <nickptar@mindspring.com>