In a message dated 11/6/00 10:34:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, zjuric@utic.net.ba writes: << By the way, I often hear something like "I hate nostub programs because they can not be launched from shells". From my point of view: "I hate shells because they can not launch nostub programs". >> I don't hate either, I just wanted to know if there was a way around the limitation. -jordan