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RE: A89: Re: Assembly-89 Digest V1 #871
LoL. Here is not the time to blame me. You got a problem take it up with my
foot bi+ch. I'm not going out of my way to install a mail reader that
responds to html in plain text and cant read html so I can send out 3
identical complaints ever time I hit "Yank Me"
You think html is bad. Start with the sender you dumb kunt. And fuck you for
being so hyprocritical.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org
[mailto:owner-assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org]On Behalf Of Alan C Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 7:02 PM
To: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org
Subject: A89: Re: Assembly-89 Digest V1 #871
Dammit Serial, you're causing HTML mail again. I'm not saying you are
necessarily the only one, but this is a clear cut example of the HTML
mail. Maybe it was an accident or something like that, but I have never
seen so much HTML mail on a mailing list. We need a moderator.
Alan
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:08:42 -0800
> From: "Serial" <Serial@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: A89: Re: Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864
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> RE: A89: Re: Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864You cant be angry at them for
> it,
> it's fair competition. You can take action if it is an identical
> model
> though. But you cant patent broad ideas like those people who try to
> patent
> general things or intangables like words or motor vehicles.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org
> [mailto:owner-assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org]On Behalf Of Mark Scott
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 6:08 PM
> To: 'assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org'
> Subject: RE: A89: Re: Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864
>
>
> If I had an object duplicator, I'd sell it to the companies
> building
> lawnmowers, and patent it. Then I'd be pissed if someone started
> duplicating my duplicator.
>
> Mark E. Scott Jr.
> mscott@databasecity.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan C Johnson [mailto:benjamin99@juno.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:22 PM
> To: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org
> Subject: A89: Re: Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864
>
>
>
> I don't expect this to change anyone's mind, but I just want to
> make a
> few points.
>
> You're still wrong. Althogh MS would be stupid to put the Windows
> source
> on the web, that doesn't in any way take away their rights to do
> as they
> wish with it. Software does not become public domain until the
> author
> makes it public domain, no matter what the company does with it.
> They
> could burn a set of CD's containing the Windows source and put
> them on a
> platter in front of MS headquarters, but until they decide to let
> people
> have them, it is illegal to take them. Just because people like
> you
> would abuse a situation like this doesn't make it legal or right.
> You
> can rationalize it as much as you want, but it doesn't change the
> facts.
>
> On a slightly separate note, Microsoft would not go bankrupt,
> either,
> just because there are far more people willing to do the right
> thing and
> buy Windows than go hunt it down on warez sites. Think about it:
> Do you
> think the average man would go hunting for hours to go find a
> working,
> virus free copy? I don't think so. Despite the way they got in
> the
> position they are in, the right thing to do is buy the software
> they
> worked for years on instead of stealing it. Besides, they will
> get
> what's coming to them when the government desides what to do about
> their
> monopoly tactics.
>
> Finally, earlier today, I read a message about a lawnmower
> analogy. It
> said something about taking a lawnmower just because it doesn't
> have a
> sign saying not to take it. Well imagine you have an "object
> duplicator". Would it be right to sneak into a lawnmower
> manufacturor's
> headquaters and copy yourself a lawnmower? No, because if you
> need a
> lawnmower, that's one less lawnmower sold by the company.
>
> -Alan
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:45:14 -0800
> > From: "Serial" <Serial@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: A89: Me distributing roms.
> >
> > The source to a program is a whole other animal. It's the source
> > that can
> > become public domain after a product is deemed outsold and not
> going
> > to make
> > any money by the company. The sources are way way different than
> the
> > exe.
> > However the idea is the same, if adobe put the source on their
> site
> > it's now
> > a GNU product. They may make money off cd's from business still
> but
> > not
> > likely. the doom source was released because it made id no money
> so
> > for no
> > gain of their own they basically helped inspiring first person
> > shooter game
> > writters. I mean think of this.. if the source to windows 2000
> > and/or 98 got
> > out microsoft would likely go bankrupt overnight, this is the
> reason
> > it is
> > not on the internet but rather on Mr. Super Computer in an
> isolated
> > room
> > beind a shitload of steel and codes.
> >
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Olle Hedman <oh@hem.passagen.se>
> > To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 8:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: A89: Me distributing roms.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > yeah. whatever. I am just waiting if there will be any
> response
> > from TI.
> > > I have not got any mail yet, but they have been visiting me
> again.
> > > Either they don't care, or they are teaming up their laywers
> ;)
> > > The only change I have done so far, is that I no longer
> distribute
> > the
> > newest
> > > rom version. If anyone wants that, they can just as well
> download
> > it from
> > TI.
> > >
> > > file://Olle
> > >
> > > Scott Dial wrote:
> > > > Isn't this one of those situations where the software
> becomes
> > public
> > > > domain or something like that. I thought when software was
> no
> > longer in
> > > > production that it becomes public domain after certain
> amount of
> > time.
> > > > Whatever...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D090070702-18012000>You=20
> cant be angry at them for it, it's fair competition. You can take
> action =
> if it=20
> is an identical model though. But you cant patent broad ideas like
> those =
> people=20
> who try to patent general things or intangables like words or
> motor=20
> vehicles.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
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> size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> owner-assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org=20
> [mailto:owner-assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org]<B>On Behalf Of
> </B>Mark=20
> Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 17, 2000 6:08
> PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
> 'assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: A89: Re: =
> Assembly-89=20
> Digest V1 #864<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>If I had an object duplicator, I'd sell it to
> the =
> companies=20
> building lawnmowers, and patent it. Then I'd be pissed if =
> someone=20
> started duplicating my duplicator. </FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>Mark E. Scott Jr.</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>mscott@databasecity.com</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>From: Alan=20
> C Johnson [<A href=3D"mailto:benjamin99@juno.com"=20
> target=3D_blank>mailto:benjamin99@juno.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>Sent:=20
> Friday, January 14, 2000 9:22 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>To:=20
> assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject:
> A89: =
> Re:=20
> Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864</FONT> </P><BR>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>I don't expect this to change anyone's mind, but
> I =
> just want=20
> to make a</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>few points.</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>You're still wrong. Althogh MS would be
> stupid =
> to put=20
> the Windows source</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>on the web, that
> doesn't =
> in any way=20
> take away their rights to do as they</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>wish =
> with=20
> it. Software does not become public domain until the =
> author</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>makes it public domain, no matter what the
> company =
> does with=20
> it. They</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>could burn a set of CD's
> =
> containing the=20
> Windows source and put them on a</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>platter
> in =
> front of=20
> MS headquarters, but until they decide to let people</FONT>
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>have them, it is illegal to take them. Just because
> =
> people like=20
> you</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>would abuse a situation like this =
> doesn't make it=20
> legal or right. You</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>can
> rationalize it =
> as much=20
> as you want, but it doesn't change the facts.</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>On a slightly separate note, Microsoft would not
> go =
> bankrupt,=20
> either,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>just because there are far more
> =
> people willing=20
> to do the right thing and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>buy Windows
> than =
> go hunt it=20
> down on warez sites. Think about it: Do you</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>think the average man would go hunting for hours to go
> find a =
>
> working,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>virus free copy? I don't
> =
> think=20
> so. Despite the way they got in the</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>position=20
> they are in, the right thing to do is buy the software they</FONT>
> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>worked for years on instead of stealing it.
> Besides, =
> they will=20
> get</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>what's coming to them when the =
> government desides=20
> what to do about their</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>monopoly =
> tactics.</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>Finally, earlier today, I read a message about a
> =
> lawnmower=20
> analogy. It</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>said something about =
> taking a=20
> lawnmower just because it doesn't have a</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>sign saying=20
> not to take it. Well imagine you have an "object</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>duplicator". Would it be right to sneak into a =
> lawnmower=20
> manufacturor's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>headquaters and copy
> yourself =
> a=20
> lawnmower? No, because if you need a</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>lawnmower,=20
> that's one less lawnmower sold by the company.</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>-Alan</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>> ------------------------------</FONT>
> <BR><FONT =
>
> size=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> Date: Fri, 14 Jan
> 2000 =
> 15:45:14=20
> -0800</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> From: "Serial"=20
> <Serial@earthlink.net></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>>
> Subject: =
> Re: A89: Me=20
> distributing roms.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
> =
> size=3D2>>=20
> The source to a program is a whole other animal. It's the =
> source</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> that can</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>>
> become =
> public=20
> domain after a product is deemed outsold and not going</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> to make</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> any money by
> the =
> company. The=20
> sources are way way different than the</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>>=20
> exe.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> However the idea is the same,
> if =
> adobe put=20
> the source on their site</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> it's =
> now</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> a GNU product. They may make money off
> cd's =
> from=20
> business still but</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> not</FONT>
> <BR><FONT =
>
> size=3D2>> likely. the doom source was released because it made
> id =
> no money=20
> so</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> for no</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>> gain of=20
> their own they basically helped inspiring first person</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> shooter game</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>>
> writters. I =
> mean think=20
> of this.. if the source to windows 2000</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>> =
> and/or 98=20
> got</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> out microsoft would likely go =
> bankrupt=20
> overnight, this is the reason</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> it =
> is</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> not on the internet but rather on Mr.
> Super =
> Computer in=20
> an isolated</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> room</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>>=20
> beind a shitload of steel and codes.</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>></FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> - ----- Original Message -----</FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> From: Olle Hedman <oh@hem.passagen.se></FONT>
> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org></FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 8:08 AM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> Subject: Re: A89: Me distributing roms.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT =
>
> size=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>>=20
> ></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > yeah. whatever. I am just
> =
> waiting if=20
> there will be any response</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> from =
> TI.</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > I have not got any mail yet, but they
> =
> have been=20
> visiting me again.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Either they
> =
> don't care,=20
> or they are teaming up their laywers ;)</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>> =
> > The=20
> only change I have done so far, is that I no longer
> distribute</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
> newest</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> > rom version. If anyone wants that, they can
> just as =
> well=20
> download</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> it from</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>>=20
> TI.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>> =
> > <A=20
> href=3D"file://Olle" target=3D_blank>file://Olle</A></FONT>
> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>>=20
> ></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Scott Dial wrote:</FONT>
> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> > > Isn't this one of those situations where
> the =
> software=20
> becomes</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> public</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>> >=20
> > domain or something like that. I thought when software was =
> no</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> longer in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>>
> > =
> >=20
> production that it becomes public domain after certain amount =
> of</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> time.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> >
> > =
>
> Whatever...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT =
> size=3D2>>=20
> ></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>>=20
> ------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=3D2>></FONT> =
> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>> End of Assembly-89 Digest V1 #864</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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