Re: A89: This is important
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Re: A89: This is important
Do you have further documentation of 1.xx? I (and many others, I'm sure)
would love to see this if you are not planning on studying it any further.
As a programmer, I will not ask for your 2.xx observations as I know that
you will most likely continue them and perfect them. I only ask for your
1.xx findings IF and only IF you are not planning on researching on it any
more.
-Miles Raymond EML: m_rayman@bigfoot.com
ICQ: 13217756 IRC: Killer2 AIM: kilier2
http://www.bigfoot.com/~m_rayman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johan" <johei804@student.liu.se>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: A89: This is important
> On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 18:40:56 -0500, Croachrose@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > I am in aw of most of you people and of every single programmer who can
break
> > the code that the TI programmers spent hours doing. I wish I knew
assembly as
> > much as these guys do but i haven't taken the time to do it. Anyway, I
have a
> > question. When is someone gonna break all the necessary codes in ams
2.0x to
> > get highscore capability and when are people gonna start writing better
games
> > for it. I know there is some turmoil in the fact that this new rom sucks
but
> > if someone breaks the coding then all that memory is usefull. I have
some
> > games for the 89 hw1 ams 2.0x but i just don't know enough to port my
own
> > games or to write any or to create highscore capability. If no one out
there
> > wants to take the time to do all this then at least someone help me
learn
> > asm, or write a good begginners tutorial for 89 programming. I just wish
> > somebody out there would come up with some good *new* stuff for the
TI-89
> > (2.0x).
> >
> > Pat
>
> To answer your question: I've already "broken" it.
>
> Why are all people asking for tutorials when their local library is full
of
> 'em? (At least in Sweden!) I learned BASIC, Turbo Pascal, C, x86-asm and
> Z80-asm that way!
>
> But don't start with asm if you're a beginner. Start with a high level
> language with reasonable debugging facilities. Personally I think that
> QuickBasic (yes!) is a great language for beginners.
>
> And for the rest of your mail:
>
> AMS 2.03 doesn't suck. It's AMS 1.xx that sucks, AND IT SUCKS A LOT!!!
>
> AMS 1.xx is something TI put together *very* quickly. They knew that they
> would have to rewrite most of it, but wanted to be able to sell their
calcs
> as soon as possible. They could do this because the calc has Flash ROM, a
> feature that makes them able to sell calcs now and write a real OS later.
>
> I started disassembling/studying/hacking 1.00 as soon as I had bought my
> TI89, sometime in fall 1998. I wanted to know about the ROM calls etc. But
> as I figured out more and more, I saw that the function list didn't make
any
> sense. Many "important" functions (from my point of view) were missing and
> many functions in the list were completely useless! The function list felt
> very incomplete.
>
> I've been studying 2.03 for about a month now and I already know about
> more than half of the additional functions in 2.03. (Most of them are in
> fact math functions, used by the command interpreter. Mostly useless for
> games.)
>
> It's very sad that almost all of you are completely unaware of the H U G
E
> improvements from AMS 1.0x to AMS 2.0x. I really do understand why it
takes
> so long time for TI to complete the SDK. It's a *very* complex system and
> there's *very much* to document. AMS 2.03 is a *math* platform and the the
> SDK will focus on creating *math* extensions and applications, *not*
games.
> (But there are a few functions in the ROM pointer list that seem quite
> strange, they don't seem right for math programs anyway... for example,
> there's one function that reinitializes the keyboard system (emptying
> buffer, zeroing flags etc). Like why?!?)
>
> Remember! 1.0x will die! 2.xx is the future OS!
>
> /Johan
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