A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
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A89: Re: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
The thing is, what Scott said is true. Us HW1 users weren't cheated, at
least not directly. The problem is that TI implemented Flash ROM into their
graphing calculators so that users could feel confident about buying a new
calculator, because after the "bugs" were worked out, they could simply
flash the ROM and everything would be fixed. Then TI goes and fixes the
only thing that flashing the ROM can't fix, the hardware. Now there are
essentially two versions of the TI-89 out there, and they aren't necessary
compatible with one another. And as time goes on, there will be many more
HW2 calcs vs. HW1 calcs, and HW1 calcs will be going "obsolete".
TI didn't lie, they were just very sneaky. If they wanted to be really
nice, they could offer a trade-in program. But they won't do that, they
have no reason to. First, it would cost a lot of money, because they can't
do anything with the HW1 calcs but throw them away. Secondly, TI has no
obligation do to this, and because of the fact that a majority of TI-89
owners don't know the difference about HW1/HW2, the minority of us who do
know the truth don't make a difference. We are just a drop in the bucket.
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Serial" <Serial@earthlink.net>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:58 PM
Subject: A89: Re: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
You sound like a defensive Ti Employee at a press conference. Or bill
clinton perhaps.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Noveck <noveck@pluto.njcc.com>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 1:38 PM
Subject: A89: Archive on HW 1.00/2.00
|
| Now, getting back on topic - let's see the list get a little productive. .
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| Opinions are going to differ on whether or not TI cheated us. I accused
| them of doing just that in one of my emails to Paul Fischer, and he had a
| good point - in TI's opinion, none of us with HW 1.00 were cheated.
|
| Instead, TI gave HW 2.00 buyers a "free upgrade" of sorts -- were TI
really
| out to cheat us, new 89s would not sell for the same price with a more
| expensive 12 MHz processor. Paul compared it to car dealerships -- all
they
| do is stick on a new number for the model year, and they can change the
car
| all they want. And they don't tell you everything that has changed.
|
| The ONLY reason TI is getting flamed like this from us is because of one
| poor marketting decision - whether a calc is HW1 or HW2 is not distinctly
| obvious at first glace. If "HW2" was written on the calc and noted in big
| print on the box. If they called it the 89+ or the 89-2, we would not
| complain. It's all psychological -- humans, as a whole, tend to look at
how
| they were cheated rather than how they were pompered.
|
| Regardless, the issue could go either way. There's simply no point in
| complaining -- what's done is done/ Realize that what you say will have
no
| impact on TI whatsoever - the problem is corporate marketting, which will
| not change its ways for any reason other than greed. If you're going to
| complain, do it amongst yourselves so that those of us who understand its
| futility don't have to look at it (yes, I get the digest version of the
list
| and have to scroll past it to read other messages - not just delete it =)
|
| -Scott
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