Re: A89: The logic behing signined and unsigned programs!
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Re: A89: The logic behing signined and unsigned programs!
no programs not authorized by Ti for commercial sail can be sold.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Kristiansen <mike_emk@hotmail.com>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: A89: The logic behing signined and unsigned programs!
>
> > > Now everyone listen up:
> > >
> > > TI will (?) release two versions of the Flash SDK: a free and a
> >professional
> > > version! With the free version you can write programs for the calc as
> >usual!
> > > With the pro version you can write flash rom programs which can access
> >the
> > > Flash ROM directly, like the calc itself does when getting a product
> >code
> > > update! Imagine when everyone could write this kind of program:
> > >
> > > They could write programs which actually destroy the ROM so you'd have
> >to
> > > send the calc to TI! And the question is if they will help you because
> >you
> > > destroyed the ROM through a program you've downloaded from the web.
> >That's
> > > why TI wants to sign flash rom programs with such powerful abilities
> >like
> > > writes to the flash ROM!
> >
> >
> >When getting a signature for a program, does TI thoroughly check it? I
> >sure that a determined hacker could hide something deep into a program.
> >I wonder what TI will do when software they authenticated killed your
calc
> >:-)
>
> Me too ;-)
>
> >If TI would sign programs just for security, why the heck does it cost so
> >much? If they charge Ti-89 like they do Ti-83+, with educational license
> >its _$33_ per _one_signature_, even if the program is released freeware.
> >And if someone else takes the source (which I always give out) and
> >improves the program to match his needs, another $33 for signature.
> >
> >It's like an opposite of normal situation; Normally, programmer makes
> >programs and sells them at $33. But TI wants it to be; programmer
> >makes programs and pays $33 per program.
>
> Signing a program costs $33, OK. But you only pay this price once!
> Furthermore, software which runs from the flash ROM, this means TI gives
the
> programmers out there the oppurtunity to write commercial programs for the
> TI-89! I - personally - wouldn't release the source to a program I paid
$33
> for a license! Imagine someone writes a really good Word89 for the calc
and
> signs it for commercial release: He could sell his program! This program
> can't be copied, and then there's one great thing left:
>
> YOUR PROGRAM IS COPYRIGHTED AND CAN'T BE COPIED WITHOUT YOUR
> AUTHORIZATION!!!
>
> >Here's how they responded when I let them know that as a freeware
> >programmer I'm very upset about the limitations on programmability they
> >will/have set on Ti-89:
> >
> >"Texas Instruments appreciates your support of our products. I
understand
> >your concerns. At this current time Texas Instruments does not plan on
> >offering signings unless you purchase the Educational or Professional
SDK.
> >I will forward your comments to our SDK development team.
> >
> >There is an 8KB limitation to the size of apps that can be created.
Texas
> >Instruments has no announced plans to increase this size."
> >
> >(I deleted the parts that everyone has read a hundred times, headers
> >"ti-cares" and "kind regards")
> >
> >
> > > You should in fact be glad about this!
> >
> >You can't be serious.
>
> YES, I AM!!! Read the part above to know why? If everybody writes stupid
> programs that splatter your memory, what the hell does this help the user?
> I, for my part, will purchase the professional version and I'm pretty sure
> that it'll pay out!
>
> > > Finally read this: Stop yelling at TI about the pre-release of ROM
2.01!
> > > It's not an official release, furthermore it's not even written by
Texas
> > > Instruments! As long as you haven't got a clue about ROM 2.00 by TI,
> >just
> > > keep quiet!
> >
> >Quite true. Though 2.01 is an excellent clue :-) But the fact stands,
TI
> >hasn't released it so. Let's wait until they release "2.00" before
> >starting to riot.
>
> Thanks a lot for your comments! I'll get in contact with Texas Instruments
> again and send you some more informations about ROM 2.00 as soon as I know
> more!
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Michael Kristiansen
>
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