Re: A89: THOSE TI BASTARDS!!!

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Re: A89: THOSE TI BASTARDS!!!



I totally agree with the subject.

Anyway, to not make this just a pissed off comment:

Couldn't the Ti-OS be fooled by having a browser that itself runs other
programs?

Then the program that's run by Ti-OS would be a small browser (<8kB) and
the browser just happens to jump to an "unspecified address" that happens
to contain a program. :-)


Possibly relating to this I think that TIs website mentioned that flash
applications will have two licenses;  one free, that's limited to max 8kB
apps, and one commercial, that's unlimited, but AFAIK you have to pay to
get a commercial license.

IMHO, restricting free software can only hurt TI.  The recent questionable
handling of HWv2, AMS2.0 and FLASH licensing have broken my respect for TI.
I guess I should've bought a HP... :-)


	- Riba


On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Scott Noveck wrote:
> Yes, I'll use whatever language I like.  Tough cookie for you =)
> 
> Check out this post from Samir Ribic - the Tezxas guy - on the ticalc
> message board:
> 
> ------------
> "I was donkey and downloaded 2.01. Yes, there are good news, 700K of archive
> memory, reset resistant archive memory, expandable folders ...
> 
> "But: ASSEMBLY PROGRAMS ARE NOW LIMITED TO 8K, NO MORE TO 64K!
> 
> "I did test.I made program long 8189 bytes and 8197 bytes. The first one
> worked, the second one showed
> Error: Argument must be expression
> There are many good assembly program longer than 8 K
> Tezxas, Zelda 89, and after appearance of GCC will be even more. No one will
> work on 2.01. Not mention dirty shells like Doorsos and all programs depends
> on them! ROM Dumper from VTI gives address error.
> 
> "I knew rumour that new SDK for TI89 will limit free version of it to
> generate up to 8K, and many though: "No problem. I will use just a manuals
> from free version and continue to use Plusshell or GCC."
> But, Texas instruments sabotaged such idea.
> 
> "I hope that it is still possible to put program in file(s) other than
> assembly program, allocate memory, copy program to it and jump to allocated
> block, but I am not yet sure. "
> ------------
> 
> To make a long story short and sum that whole thing up, TI has limited
> assembly programs to 8k in order to make us PAY for FLASH APPS - we KNOW
> this is intentional =)
> 
> I'm looking at a workaround right now (some modified plusshell files), but
> this is the reason that the doorsos kernel won't install.  If we can find
> some addresses, a .89u patcher should work.  Or, if you want to go the evil
> way, we can whip up that serial number modifier for HWr1 calcs and threaten
> TI.  Either way, that's really a snobby thing to do. . .
> 
>     -Scott
> 
>