I hear a lot of people on this list saing that the libfunctions will be obsolete when we find the same functions in rom.. I do NOT think so. On all the other ti-calcs, ALL graphic-related romcalls are _terribly_ slow, the line and putpixel functions for the TI-83 for example is so slow its almost funny :), so I definatly think that better written routines are needed. If they are in lib or in program, i dont care.. //Olle