> (Pat Milheron told Chicane how quite some time ago) What ever happened to Pat, anyway? I hope he's not deceased (like Magnus). All I remember is I stopped reading my list mail for a month or so about a year ago, and after that I never saw another post (not that he posted much anyway; but it was pretty helpful when he did...). Or do 86 people still have jobs at TI? Cassady Roop