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> Assembly-86 Digest Saturday, May 15 1999 Volume 01 : Number 904
>
> Index of topics in this issue:
>
> Re: A86: actual asm help
> Re: A86: new shell idea
> Re(2): A86: network
> Re(2): A86: network
> Re: Re(2): A86: network
> Re: A86: Very [OT] :)
> Re: A86: network
> Re: A86: network
> Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
> Re: A86: network
> Re: Re(2): A86: Theory question
> A86: [OT] acz.org news groups back online!
> Re(2): Re(2): A86: network
> Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
> A86: Re: Assembly-86 Digest V1 #771
> A86: Re: Very [OT] :)
> A86: Re: Re: [OT] this might sound dumb but
> Re: A86: Re: Re: [OT] this might sound dumb but
> Re: Re(2): Re(2): A86: network
> Re: A86: Contrast
> Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
> Re: Re(2): A86: network
> Re(2): Re(2): A86: network
>
> See the end of the mail for information about the list!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:06:58 -0500
> From: "David Phillips" <david@acz.org>
> Subject: Re: A86: actual asm help
>
> No, it still contains 1. I think he was thinking it'd contain 0, like CP
> would do 1-1. Before this
>
> ld a,1
> ld (hl),a
>
> So I think that yes, it would contain 1 :)
>
> > > > ld a,(hl)
> > > > cp 1 ...........does a now contain 1
> > >
> > > Yes. CP only sets the flags, it does not change the value of anything.
> > >
> >
> >
> > uh...that would be no, then :-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:12:13 -0700
> From: Jeffrey Malone <ieatlint@home.com>
> Subject: Re: A86: new shell idea
>
> How bout saving it as a string so the program would not be recognised as
> one except in the correct shell(s)?
> - --
> Jeffrey Malone
> <ieatlint@home.com>
>
> . (¯`·.¸(¯`·.¸ ZAPO ¸.·´¯)¸.·´¯)
> z80 Assembly Programmers Organization
> . http://zapo.calc.org/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:38:05 -0400
> From: fuzz@pinecrest.edu (David Norelid)
> Subject: Re(2): A86: network
>
> >but to have a radio link....
>
> ahh, i thought you were referring to a hardlinked multiplayer system, my
> bad.
>
> FUZZ
> David Norelid
> Fuzz Enterprises Inc.
> - --------------------------
> Have you swallowed
> your brain? -- Zorak
> - --------------------------
> listen.to/yankovic
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:40:03 -0400
> From: fuzz@pinecrest.edu (David Norelid)
> Subject: Re(2): A86: network
>
> >i say, join the hardware list, or did it already get shot down there due
> >to it's unfeasability?
>
> i think it was shot down a little while ago (i get asm-86 and ti-h), b/c
> most people just said, "oh, _those_ plans, those are the hoax radio link
> plans at ticalc", w/o ever really building it themselves. but from what i
> hear from this other guy who built a radio link and it works, i think
> there might be some renewed interest in the radio link.
>
> FUZZ
> David Norelid
> Fuzz Enterprises Inc.
> - --------------------------
> Have you swallowed
> your brain? -- Zorak
> - --------------------------
> listen.to/yankovic
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:39:09 EDT
> From: Nicolas P Zagorin <ziggy2282@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: Re(2): A86: network
>
> NO! It really does work...I built two working ones and they transfer
> within a range of 30-50 feet. Most people said it was a hoax because in
> order to get them to work, the two have to be set to EXACTLY the same
> frequency. It has to be really precise, but does work!
>
> ~Nick
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:43:33 EDT
> From: PsyKaBek@aol.com
> Subject: Re: A86: Very [OT] :)
>
> hehe I got 20 of em and Im gonna go scalping hehe lemme see 8 bucks a ticket
> sell em for 15-20!!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:47:45 EDT
> From: PsyKaBek@aol.com
> Subject: Re: A86: network
>
> Cant we all stop the flames?? If you need coulsoling or illegal roms/full
> game dowloads/ MP3 Files Email me personally
>
> VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER
>
> cDc condemns the call for infowar
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:48:15 EDT
> From: PsyKaBek@aol.com
> Subject: Re: A86: network
>
> By the way (halfbrain) you spelled techers wrong.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:07:53 -0400
> From: warhorse <warhorse@bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
>
> I meant burned out as in "used them to their full extent" I have a
> renewal charger...
> terrence
>
> TGaArdvark@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > I use rechargebles, but the voltage is always lower. I use
> > > those cause they charge 1000 times, whereas I burned a
> > > set of renewals in a semester.
> >
> > You have to use a special charger for Renewals. Otherwise
> > they start making noises and emitting substances. I speak
> > from experience.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:17:51 -0400
> From: warhorse <warhorse@bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: Re: A86: network
>
> You can use the batteries as the antenna, or even some of the internal wiring. Now
> a satellite dish....
> terrence
>
> Cassady Roop wrote:
>
> > No antenna needed for short ranges. The whole thing fits into an
> > inconspicuous ~1" cube that plugs directly into the link port if you
> > make it small.
> >
> > > if you even tried to do the radio thing, you would need to connect an antenna
> > > to your calc!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:21:39 EDT
> From: BlAsTo1414@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Re(2): A86: Theory question
>
> no, check. i got it. i understand
>
> > What?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:59:15 -0500
> From: "David Phillips" <david@acz.org>
> Subject: A86: [OT] acz.org news groups back online!
>
> For those of you who didn't already know about these, now you do. For those
> of you who did but found them offline for the past couple of weeks, that
> problem has been fixed, permanently (I hope). We will add new groups as
> they are requested. Check them out:
>
> "Welcome to the ultimate place for the programming community to communicate!
> A newsgroup offers several advantages over mailing lists and message boards.
> First of all, the ideas are grouped according to category. Mailing lists
> have a practical limit the number of categories you can have. Furthermore,
> you can read the newsgroup as leisurely as you want, and even add files
> without disrupting the flow of e-mail. Plus, message boards can often get
> out of topic and are usually pretty ackward to use. The ACZ news server at,
> acz.org, offers specific topics for asking questions, giving comments, and
> just naturally communicating.
> ACZ has an NNTP (news server) located at: acz.org
>
> Simply add or change your default news server on your favorite e-mail
> program (i.e. Outlook Express) to acz.org and get the latest list of topics
> you can chat about on the ACZ newsgroup."
>
> - --
> David Phillips <david@acz.org>
> http://www.acz.org/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:52:22 -0400
> From: fuzz@pinecrest.edu (David Norelid)
> Subject: Re(2): Re(2): A86: network
>
> so you built these using the "hoax" plans? i'm gonna build them this
> weekend, and if they don't work, i'm sending you the bill. alright? j/k,
> i'm trusting you, though.
>
> FUZZ
> David Norelid
> Fuzz Enterprises Inc.
> - --------------------------
> Have you swallowed
> your brain? -- Zorak
> - --------------------------
> listen.to/yankovic
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:13:32 EDT
> From: ZeromusMog@aol.com
> Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
>
> In a message dated 5/12/99 11:07:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> TGaArdvark@aol.com writes:
>
> > You have to use a special charger for Renewals. Otherwise
> > they start making noises and emitting substances. I speak
> > from experience.
>
> I've had from 5-7 of the stupid things leak on me, and judging by the crap on
> the contacts on the ones that my Math teacher has, I'm not the only one with
> this problem...
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:51:48 -0700
> From: Ricky Hendrix <ricky@humboldt1.com>
> Subject: A86: Re: Assembly-86 Digest V1 #771
>
> leave me alone or i will take legal actin thank you
>
> Assembly-86 Digest wrote:
>
> > Assembly-86 Digest Tuesday, January 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 771
> >
> > Index of topics in this issue:
> >
> > Re: A86: Unix shell
> > Re: A86: Unix shell
> > Re: A86: Unix shell
> > A86: Re: mod(
> >
> > See the end of the mail for information about the list!
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:34:02 PST
> > From: "Curtiss Howard" <po_boxx_823@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: A86: Unix shell
> >
> > >like the idea... but sadly I don't have time for such a project
> > >
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >Sphincter Boy wrote:
> > >
> > >> Has anyone ever writen a Unix based shell? It would be really nice to
> > >> have one. Not that the calc doesn't already offer a cli and text
> > >> configuration, it would just be nice for unix freaks like me. Group
> > >> project time?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> As he atempted to say, "Do you both love pork," In his mangled
> > English,
> > >> it came out, "Do you both have sex with pigs."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I think something along the lines of Bash for the TI-86 would be really
> > cool, but most of the TI programmers and users are MS drones <g>. If it
> > doesn't have k3wl icons and point-n-click, they don't want it :).
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:49:20 -0800
> > From: rabidcow@juno.com (Joshua J Seagoe)
> > Subject: Re: A86: Unix shell
> >
> > the main problem with this is the keypad. that's gonna be hell with
> > anything that requires a lot of text commands. (until someone builds a
> > linkport keyboard adapter)
> > how much like unix do you want anyway? the calc's data storage is
> > completely different from anything running unix (afaik)
> >
> > - -josh
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:38:11 -0500 Sphincter Boy
> > <sphincter@columbus.crosswinds.net> writes:
> > >
> > >Has anyone ever writen a Unix based shell? It would be really nice to
> > >have one. Not that the calc doesn't already offer a cli and text
> > >configuration, it would just be nice for unix freaks like me. Group
> > >project time?
> > >
> > >--
> > >As he atempted to say, "Do you both love pork," In his mangled
> > >English,
> > >it came out, "Do you both have sex with pigs."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:04:06 EST
> > From: ZeromusMog@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: A86: Unix shell
> >
> > In a message dated 1/18/99 8:34:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > po_boxx_823@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > > I think something along the lines of Bash for the TI-86 would be really
> > > cool, but most of the TI programmers and users are MS drones <g>. If it
> > > doesn't have k3wl icons and point-n-click, they don't want it :).
> >
> > First of all, let me state for the record that I currently have Linux
> > installed on my computer, and it's a great OS. It's way more stable and can do
> > much more than Win95. But I really don't blame us ASM programmers for being
> > attracted to 'k3wl icons' and 'point-n-click', because ASM is complicated
> > enough, forget about worrying about a BASH prompt. I shudder while thinking of
> > editing ASM programs in vim, or the bloated command line required to assemble
> > a program and have it output a file that can be used on the calcultor. It
> > seems that, in Linux, if there are less than 50 options available to perform
> > any simple task, it's not enough, and more must be found immediately. Where do
> > you think the verbose flags came from? :)
> >
> > Now would I assemble a program with Linux? In a second! I'm a geek, remember?
> > :) But I can't blame anyone for wanting to press ctrl+F5 to error check,
> > assemble, and send an ASM program to a calculator. It's really nice, and
> > accomplishes the same thing in a single keystroke that having three terminal
> > windows open-one to write code, another to assemble, and yet another to send
> > the program- would. I tried using vim to edit my bashrc yesterday. Anyone who
> > only uses windows will never understand how complicated save and quit can be.
> > :)
> >
> > So my point: Linux is cool, I'd like to see it on a calc, and I'd like to see
> > some programming utilities for it. However, remember that it's unnececarally
> > complex sometimes, and there really is nothing wrong with using a GUI every
> > now and then. :)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:10:14 -0600
> > From: "David Phillips" <david@acz.org>
> > Subject: A86: Re: mod(
> >
> > The command "mod(" performs a modulus on two numbers, the same as the MOD
> > command in BASIC or the % operator in C/C++. m modulus n will return the
> > remainder of m divided by n. The _FPDIV rom call will divide OP1 by OP2 and
> > return the quotient in OP1 and the remainder in OP2:
> >
> > call _op1set4 ; OP1 = 4
> > call _op2set3 ; OP2 = 3
> > call _FPDIV ; OP1 / OP2 = 4 / 3
> > call _disp_op1 ; disp OP1 = 1.333333333333
> > call _op2toop1 ; OP2 -> OP1
> > jp _disp_op1 ; disp/return OP2 = 3 (remainder)
> >
> > - --
> > David Phillips <david@acz.org>
> > http://www.acz.org/
> >
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Jeanne9005@aol.com>
> > To: <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 4:34 PM
> > Subject: A86: mod(
> >
> > >
> > >I got an answer to how to do a mod( of two numbers, but then I was told not
> > tp
> > >use it. How do I perform a mod( ?
> > >
> > >Glen Solsberry
> > >ZAPO
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Assembly-86 Digest V1 #771
> > *********************************
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:56:13 -0400
> From: "Kevin Buck" <mckbuck@coastalnet.com>
> Subject: A86: Re: Very [OT] :)
>
> I don't have any Star Wars tickets, but I do have something better...
>
> I work at the movie theatre, and we (all employees) will be watching it the
> night before in a private screening... I just love the benefits a theatre
> has to offer... ^_^
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: David Thomas <david_hd@yahoo.com>
> To: TI-86 ASM <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 3:53 AM
> Subject: A86: Very [OT] :)
>
> >
> >Just out of curiosity... how many people have Star
> >Wars tickets?
> >
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> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:53:52 -0400
> From: "Kevin Buck" <mckbuck@coastalnet.com>
> Subject: A86: Re: Re: [OT] this might sound dumb but
>
> Hey, I installed an EL backlight in my calc (an 86) and I am just in love
> with it...
>
> I've never seen such a useful hard ware development for any Ti-Calc yet...
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: David Phillips <david@acz.org>
> To: assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 12:48 AM
> Subject: A86: Re: [OT] this might sound dumb but
>
> >
> >No (not that I remember), but it does seem like it won't open right away.
> >There are a couple of snap type connectors at the bottom on the inside, and
> >there is a sort of hinge (keeps it together) at the top. There is a site
> >(copied off the acz.org links page) that shows pictures of how to take
> apart
> >your calc: http://members.tripod.com/~jrapp/stuff/ You need to be careful
> >if you touch that display. Mess up the ribbon connector, and your display
> >is screwed.
> >
> >Btw, for the site, check out the part about the EL-Backlight (I wouldn't
> try
> >that!).
> >
> >>
> >> i cant get my calculator open. are there more screws to take out than
> the
> >2
> >> on the bottom of the bottom side?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:43:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Thomas <david_hd@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: A86: Re: Re: [OT] this might sound dumb but
>
> How does that thing look? is it harder to see the
> display when the light is off?
>
> - --- Kevin Buck <mckbuck@coastalnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, I installed an EL backlight in my calc (an 86)
> > and I am just in love
> > with it...
> >
> > I've never seen such a useful hard ware development
> > for any Ti-Calc yet...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Phillips <david@acz.org>
> > To: assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org
> > <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 12:48 AM
> > Subject: A86: Re: [OT] this might sound dumb but
> >
> >
> > >
> > >No (not that I remember), but it does seem like it
> > won't open right away.
> > >There are a couple of snap type connectors at the
> > bottom on the inside, and
> > >there is a sort of hinge (keeps it together) at the
> > top. There is a site
> > >(copied off the acz.org links page) that shows
> > pictures of how to take
> > apart
> > >your calc: http://members.tripod.com/~jrapp/stuff/
> > You need to be careful
> > >if you touch that display. Mess up the ribbon
> > connector, and your display
> > >is screwed.
> > >
> > >Btw, for the site, check out the part about the
> > EL-Backlight (I wouldn't
> > try
> > >that!).
> > >
> > >>
> > >> i cant get my calculator open. are there more
> > screws to take out than
> > the
> > >2
> > >> on the bottom of the bottom side?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:52:18 EDT
> From: Nicolas P Zagorin <ziggy2282@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): A86: network
>
> Look at it this way. If you are an electronic person, is there any
> reason why those schematic shouldn't work? No. So, then why not build
> them.
>
> ~Nick
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:24:26 PDT
> From: "Andreas Finne" <a_finne@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: A86: Contrast
>
> There's just one problem with this. It doesn't check whether 'a' is a valid
> number. If you have the contrast on one and decrease it two steps your calc
> will crash (or at least do something unpredicted). The same goes for the
> upper limit.
>
> >From: BlAsTo1414@aol.com
> >Reply-To: assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org
> >To: assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org
> >Subject: Re: A86: Contrast
> >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:58:38 EDT
> >
> >
> >i wrote a contrast changer a while back heres the code. hope it helps.
> >
> >start:
> > call _clrLCD ;clear the screen
> > call _homeup ;put cursor in top left corner
> >getkey:
> > call _getkey ;start getkey routine
> > cp kUp ;check for addition key
> > jp z,cadd ;if addition key is pressed, jump
> > cp kDown ;check for subtraction key
> > jp z,csub ;if it is pushed, jump
> > cp kExit ;check for enter key
> > jp z,exit ;if pushed, jump
> > jr getkey ;if no key is pushed, repeat steps
> >cadd:
> > ld a,($C008) ; load contrast value
> > inc a ; increase the contrast
> > ld ($C008),a ; write it back to memory
> > out (2),a ; and to the port
> > jr start
> >csub:
> > ld a,1
> > ld a,($C008) ; load contrast value
> > sbc a,1 ; decrease the contrast
> > ld ($C008),a ; write it back to memory
> > out (2),a ; and to the port
> > jr start
> >exit:
> > call _clrLCD ;clear the screen
> > call _homeup ;return the cursor
> > ret ;return th ti-os
> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:36:11 EDT
> From: McBorder@aol.com
> Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
>
> In a message ZeromusMog@aol.com writes:
>
> >
> > I've had from 5-7 of the stupid things leak on me, and judging by the crap
> > on
> > the contacts on the ones that my Math teacher has, I'm not the only one
> with
> >
> > this problem...
> yup me too. Once i charged them over night and when i woke up the lights were
> still on so i left it like that. In the manual it says you cant overcharge
> them, and when i came home the batteries were fried. But i got a new charger
> in about 2 weeks
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:38:13 -0400
> From: Chris Magill <v8r@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: Re(2): A86: network
>
> Can you send me a link to the schematics...
>
> Also do you think it might be possible to have some sort of dial to set
> the frequency. That way you can have more than one set going at a time.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, 13 May 1999 18:39:09 EDT Nicolas P Zagorin <ziggy2282@juno.com>
> writes:
> > NO! It really does work...I built two working ones and they transfer
> >within a range of 30-50 feet. Most people said it was a hoax because
> >in order to get them to work, the two have to be set to EXACTLY the
> >same
> >frequency. It has to be really precise, but does work!
> >
> >~Nick
> >___________________________________________________________________
> >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get
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> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:43:44 -0400
> From: fuzz@pinecrest.edu (David Norelid)
> Subject: Re(2): Re(2): A86: network
>
> radio link: http://www.ticalc.org/pub/text/hardware/rtlink.zip
> MBus routines: http://www.ticalc.org/pub/text/hardware/mbus099.zip
>
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