In a message dated 9/12/1998 2:48:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, brabeler@ticalc.org writes: << Usually they make 85/86 programs and then port them to the 82/83. >> Yes, but I have used the thing that converts the 82 to the 85 and most of those games did not work for the 86. The 83 to 86 should be thought deeply about.