RE: A86: ROM Images (legal battle thread)
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RE: A86: ROM Images (legal battle thread)
The TI-82 was never meant to support assembly programs. It had to be
backed in order to do so. I know this and I _hope_ you know this too by
now. :)
See below....
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Bryan Rabeler <brabeler@ticalc.org>
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Thomas J. Hruska wrote:
> At 06:09 AM 11/17/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >You want to "research" the TI ROM so you can do what? Hack assembly code?
> >That doesn't sound like a legal reason to me. Just wait until TI releases
> >the assembly information. However, since you own a TI-82, you are out of
> >luck since it doesn't support assembly.
>
> Ummm...He who is the archiver at ticalc.org doesn't know that the 82 has
> assembly capabilities? He who personally put CrASH, ASH, JASS, and
> OShell-82 shells for the TI-82 says it no longer exists. This sounds like
> hypocrisy to me. Besides, how did we get an 82 shell in the first place?
> Someone had to use the TI ROM for research purposes. So, Bryan Rabeler, if
> TI doesn't allow their ROM to be used for research purposes, you had better
> remove every last assembly shell, game, and program from the 82 directories
> or you are in serious legal trouble. However, TI can't and won't prosecute
> since "programming research" is legal under the copyright law.
>
> >Plus, who are you to say what purposes TI ROMs are used for? I think only
> >TI can say that. If TI doesn't want their ROMs to be used for
> >"programming research", then you can't do it legally. I could say I
> >wanted to use a video game ROM to research 3D gaming or something, but
> >that's still not legal.
>
> Yes, I can do it (programming research) legally. TI has no authority over
> national copyright law. They can say that they don't want their ROMs used
> for "programming research" but it will mean nothing since they are NOT
> above national law.
>
> >I challenge you to e-mail ti-cares@ti.com and ask them yourself.
>
> If they care so much, then they will come to me. I won't go grovelling on
> my e-mail knees to them. Besides, this thread's entire purpose is to come
> up with a legal defense AGAINST TI. Why give them more time to think this
> whole thing through by sending them e-mail about it? I say we all
> collaborate and come up with a legal defense of this position that I have
> proposed. If TI objects, then we fight back with our document (that needs
> to be developed) if it comes down to a court battle. If we don't prepare
> in advance, TI will come after us anyway down the road for some reason or
> other. We must be ready.
>
> Paranoid I am not. Cautious I am. TI is just waiting for ticalc,
> ti-files, or dimension-ti to mess up. The second that such an error is
> made, TI will begin the legal process. TI would love to shut down every
> last major site and if we can defend our position and win, TI will leave us
> alone, forever.
What about TI-Land or Tom's TI-81 world? :) What does this thread have to
do with TI web sites?
>
> THE TIME IS NOW: Either someone prove me utterly and absolutely wrong, OR
> let us settle this legal battle thread immediately and prepare to defend
> ourselves against TI's attack.
>
>
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